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Question for the MOT testers
« on: 20 July 2009, 09:59:49 »
While I was getting my car MOT'd this morning I was discussing the recent inclusion of tow bars to the test. The tester was interested in how my detachable bar fits to the car which then got the conversation round to the commercial drop pin type of bar that might be fitted to a Transit etc. he said that if the pin wasn't there when the vehicle was presented for test, then in theory, it should fail, even if the rest of the bar was OK.  :-?
So does that mean that if I present my car for MOT test without the detachable ball, or if the ball of a 2 bolt flange type of bar is not fitted because in day to day use it obscures some of the number plate, is that then a fail?  :-?  :-?

Surely not!   :-/  :-/
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #1 on: 20 July 2009, 10:06:37 »
Yes, its the government initiative against caravans

make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads  ;D
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #2 on: 20 July 2009, 10:10:27 »
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans

make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads  ;D

Does that mean I'd be better off selling my 'van & take the towbar off my car then?  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #3 on: 20 July 2009, 10:11:53 »
no, youve gotta ritually burn the van to fix the issue.  Honest  :y
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #4 on: 20 July 2009, 10:14:25 »
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no, youve gotta ritually burn the van to fix the issue.  Honest  :y

I'll let you tell SWMBO.  ::)  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
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« Reply #5 on: 20 July 2009, 10:16:59 »
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no, youve gotta ritually burn the van to fix the issue.  Honest  :y

I'll let you tell SWMBO.  ::)  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
:-[ ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #6 on: 20 July 2009, 21:02:37 »
if the detachable part of the towbar is not present it cannot be tested and would only be an advisory to that effect to cover the testers bottom!! cannot be a fail!! :y
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #7 on: 20 July 2009, 21:05:04 »
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads  ;D
I'd vote for them
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #8 on: 20 July 2009, 21:27:41 »
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if the detachable part of the towbar is not present it cannot be tested and would only be an advisory to that effect to cover the testers bottom!! cannot be a fail!! :y

Sounds sensible to me, but he was sure that if the drop pin of the other type was not there it'd be a fail .......  :-/
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #9 on: 20 July 2009, 21:28:43 »
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Yes, its the government initiative against caravans
make it as hard as possible to legally use one to try and drive them off the roads  ;D
I'd vote for them

I'd make air fresheners part of the MOT!  ;)  :y  :y
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #10 on: 20 July 2009, 22:04:31 »
In response to original question   if its not fitted then we cant test it.   We can only test what is there at time of test so if the ball has been removed we cant test it but we can test the rest ie the mounts, bolts ,condition of the rest of the tow bar ect.
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #11 on: 20 July 2009, 22:10:33 »
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In response to original question   if its not fitted then we cant test it.   We can only test what is there at time of test so if the ball has been removed we cant test it but we can test the rest ie the mounts, bolts ,condition of the rest of the tow bar ect.
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Sounds good to me. So is 'my' tester is wrong about the Transit type of drop pin tow ball? He interpreted the rules to say that if it wasn't there at test, then it was a fail .... same as if the R clip was missing - surely an advisory.
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #12 on: 20 July 2009, 22:14:09 »
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In response to original question   if its not fitted then we cant test it.   We can only test what is there at time of test so if the ball has been removed we cant test it but we can test the rest ie the mounts, bolts ,condition of the rest of the tow bar ect.
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Sounds good to me. So is 'my' tester is wrong about the Transit type of drop pin tow ball? He interpreted the rules to say that if it wasn't there at test, then it was a fail .... same as if the R clip was missing - surely an advisory.


as said!!! vosa vehicle inspectorates are us!!!! :y
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #13 on: 20 July 2009, 22:21:19 »
I would say that if the pin wasnt there then it cant be tested but if the pin was and the r clip wasnt then it would probably fail as its a locking device (id need to give vosa a call to confirm).
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Re: Question for the MOT testers
« Reply #14 on: 20 July 2009, 22:24:18 »
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I would say that if the pin wasnt there then it cant be tested but if the pin was and the r clip wasnt then it would probably fail as its a locking device (id need to give vosa a call to confirm).
lee 

It was a hypertheticall question!  ;)  ;)  :y
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