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[Pitchfork]

Refused to start yesterday, no dashboard lights although auxillary systems OK e.g. Alarms, interior lights etc
All fuses OK, Battery fine - AA gave up & eventually we got it to main Agent (cannot look at it until next week)
Anyone have experiences similar on Citroens or any other make?
I suspect something related to immobiliser

[wayneb]

Hi i no it sounds silly but ive had a few pugs with same problem and it turned out to be broken earth try it let me no....

[Pitchfork]

Needed a new BSI at a cost of £430.19 fitted inc VAT
(BSI - Built-in system interface which allows all of the systems to communicate with each other)

[Andy B]

Needed a new BSI at a cost of £430.19 fitted inc VAT
(BSI - Built-in system interface which allows all of the systems to communicate with each other)

bloody hell!!!!!!!!!!  Is this BSI a bugger to get to so costs loads in labour to fit, or just expensive to buy?

[Pitchfork]

Part £204.71
Labour £161.41
Then add VAT
Easily removed & replaced but then whole car needs to be reprogrammed to recognise it & all of the other systems which is whyI suspect the labour is so high
Will be similar for all Citroens, Peugeots & probably most other 'modern' cars
Apparently they can only be programmed once so a used one is out of the question unless it come with all of the other parts that interface with it e.g. ECU, Radio, Immobiliser, Steering lock, Keys etc.

[Kevin Wood]

Part £204.71
Labour £161.41
Then add VAT
Easily removed & replaced but then whole car needs to be reprogrammed to recognise it & all of the other systems which is whyI suspect the labour is so high
Will be similar for all Citroens, Peugeots & probably most other 'modern' cars
Apparently they can only be programmed once so a used one is out of the question unless it come with all of the other parts that interface with it e.g. ECU, Radio, Immobiliser, Steering lock, Keys etc.

Nothing like built-in obsolescence to prop up their parts revenue.

Still, you found a member of the motor trade who successfully diagnosed a fault without any unnecessary parts substitutions, so have been lucky.

Kevin

[trem]

do you not know anyone with peugeot planet, if so they can program it prob only cost a few beers,

I know a few problems with the bsi's (my father has a pug407)

they dont go that often, who told you they can only be programmed once, i have never heard that one on the 407 forum and i speak to peugeot techs all the time???

[Lazydocker]

That's Multiplexing for you

At least your wouldn't start... Got called out to one which was 10 days old and it wouldn't switch off and wouldn't shift out of park, whatever you did

[Pitchfork]

do you not know anyone with peugeot planet, if so they can program it prob only cost a few beers,

I know a few problems with the bsi's (my father has a pug407)

they dont go that often, who told you they can only be programmed once, i have never heard that one on the 407 forum and i speak to peugeot techs all the time???

Mr Haynes
I'm very interested if they are repairable & can be reused should you find out more

[trem]

do you not know anyone with peugeot planet, if so they can program it prob only cost a few beers,

I know a few problems with the bsi's (my father has a pug407)

they dont go that often, who told you they can only be programmed once, i have never heard that one on the 407 forum and i speak to peugeot techs all the time???

Mr Haynes
I'm very interested if they are repairable & can be reused should you find out more

I will ask the question either 2nite or over the weekend and get back to you

[Elite Pete]

Ahhhh, French electrics don't you just love them

[trem]

i have had few frensh cars and part from my pug205 they have all been ok electrics wise.  the 205 went thru mot one day and next day one side of rear side lights wouldn't work, in the end we used some twin core wire and rigged it up from other side. bodged totally

[Pitchfork]

Ahhhh, French electrics don't you just love them

The BSI unit is made by Johnson Controls

[I_want_an_Omega]

is this the current or previous model?

[Pitchfork]

is this the current or previous model?

If you refer to the car it's a MK2 (56 plate)
The BSI that failed is by Johnson Controls, I don't know who manufactured the replacement as its now hidden in the car, but it did come from Citroen because I have the box