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Re: A Tyre to avoid
« Reply #45 on: 04 March 2011, 13:33:02 »

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I have Michelin HP Premacy's on 3 corners, and a budget make on the other (how I inherited the car).

I need to change the fronts, and would happily have HP Premacy's again, but they are a) v.expensive and b) increasingly hard to source - I know its been done to death, and everybody has a subjective opinion, but what would a consensus recommendation be?

I have an Elite 3.0 on 235/45/17's.....

Unfortunately tyres are, as has been said many times, very subjective... Someone who drives like Miss Daisy all the time does not demand the same from their tyres as someone who prefers a more enthusiastic driving style ;)

I speak as I find and have been happy with the cost v's performance of Accelera Alpha's for my driving style and requirements, I'm on my second set of them. That said, if striking that balance between cost and performance was taken out of the equation I may well go for something a bit more grippy as I can get them to the limit. The one thing I have found with them is that you do get some warning before you've gone too far though :y

Each to their own... Gixer hates Falken's, others find them OK. Only you can decide ;)
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Re: A Tyre to avoid
« Reply #46 on: 04 March 2011, 14:04:52 »

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I have Michelin HP Premacy's on 3 corners, and a budget make on the other (how I inherited the car).

I need to change the fronts, and would happily have HP Premacy's again, but they are a) v.expensive and b) increasingly hard to source - I know its been done to death, and everybody has a subjective opinion, but what would a consensus recommendation be?

I have an Elite 3.0 on 235/45/17's.....

Unfortunately tyres are, as has been said many times, very subjective... Someone who drives like Miss Daisy all the time does not demand the same from their tyres as someone who prefers a more enthusiastic driving style ;)

I speak as I find and have been happy with the cost v's performance of Accelera Alpha's for my driving style and requirements, I'm on my second set of them. That said, if striking that balance between cost and performance was taken out of the equation I may well go for something a bit more grippy as I can get them to the limit. The one thing I have found with them is that you do get some warning before you've gone too far though :y

Each to their own... Gixer hates Falken's, others find them OK. Only you can decide ;)
All true, LF, but I'd rather not shell out up to £400 for 2 tyres that don't suit me....
Assuming from the nudges and winks in your post that you like to press on a bit??  :)
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Re: A Tyre to avoid
« Reply #47 on: 04 March 2011, 14:11:09 »

I don't consider the Omega a performance motor really, so I'm not too fussed about feel and whether they hold up at the track.

So I make my decision based on performance in wet weather conditions and braking tests.  I've got Uniroyal Rainsport 2's which I'm very happy with, £85 a corner fitted for me. 

Similar price are Hankook v12's.
More expensive - Continental Sport Contact's.
Cheapest I'd try are Kumho KU31's.
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Re: A Tyre to avoid
« Reply #48 on: 04 March 2011, 14:20:49 »

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I have Michelin HP Premacy's on 3 corners, and a budget make on the other (how I inherited the car).

I need to change the fronts, and would happily have HP Premacy's again, but they are a) v.expensive and b) increasingly hard to source - I know its been done to death, and everybody has a subjective opinion, but what would a consensus recommendation be?

I have an Elite 3.0 on 235/45/17's.....

Unfortunately tyres are, as has been said many times, very subjective... Someone who drives like Miss Daisy all the time does not demand the same from their tyres as someone who prefers a more enthusiastic driving style ;)

I speak as I find and have been happy with the cost v's performance of Accelera Alpha's for my driving style and requirements, I'm on my second set of them. That said, if striking that balance between cost and performance was taken out of the equation I may well go for something a bit more grippy as I can get them to the limit. The one thing I have found with them is that you do get some warning before you've gone too far though :y

Each to their own... Gixer hates Falken's, others find them OK. Only you can decide ;)
All true, LF, but I'd rather not shell out up to £400 for 2 tyres that don't suit me....
Assuming from the nudges and winks in your post that you like to press on a bit??  :)

It has been known on occasion :-X :-X ::) ::)

Especially when I'm running late ::) ::)

Like I said, I speak as I find. I fitted the Alpha's because I've got a mate who runs a tyre and exhaust and he could do them for £50+VAT per corner (first time) instead of the usual £75ish he would have charged ;) If I was paying full price I might look towards the KU31's :-/ :-/

The Alpha's also have a rim protection lip which is handy when SWMBO is parking :-X :-X
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Re: A Tyre to avoid
« Reply #49 on: 04 March 2011, 14:23:43 »

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I don't consider the Omega a performance motor really, so I'm not too fussed about feel and whether they hold up at the track.

So I make my decision based on performance in wet weather conditions and braking tests.  I've got Uniroyal Rainsport 2's which I'm very happy with, £85 a corner fitted for me. 

Similar price are Hankook v12's.
More expensive - Continental Sport Contact's.
Cheapest I'd try are Kumho KU31's.

Agreed, it's not a performance motor... But it will get on with it if you want to ;) ;)

My RR Classic definitely wasn't a performance motor but would still leave people behind if I wanted to press on... It was just a case of throwing it into corners twice - Once for the body roll and once for the corner ;D ;D

Come to think of it.... My Saggy Elite suspension is a bit similar :-X ::)
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Re: A Tyre to avoid
« Reply #50 on: 04 March 2011, 15:24:16 »

All this talk of tyres and I noticed my rears are down to the wear indicators this morning.

Oops. I guess I better change those, then! Still, at least I can get rid of the awful no-names that the dealer put on, now ;)
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Re: A Tyre to avoid
« Reply #51 on: 06 March 2011, 22:51:48 »

My Thru'pence worth:

It's very true that you get what you pay for in terms of tyres. The difference between wet and dry can be quite surprising (literally in some cases!) I recall an uncle of mine putting some 'budget' tyres on his Sierra - it was like they were made of Bakelite!!

Reading back through the posts I think I agree with Lazy tinker in that the best tyre for you depends a lot on your driving style as much as what it's fitted to.

I think I've got quite a 'lazy' driving style:

I had Pirelli P-Zeros fitted to a Merc CL500 when I got it and they were shocking. I replaced them with Dunlop SP1s and it felt like a different car. Likewise in two 7-Series BMWs I had Pirellis and Dunlops on them but went for Michelin Pilot HXs and these seemed to suit the car much better. Pure guesswork on my part at the time.

I've got RE050s on the VXR8 (standard fit) at the moment and I can't fault them. The DTi has just been re-shod with SP1s and they seem pretty consistent in the wet.

Can anyone enlighten us as to what the standard fit(s) were on the Omega through it's production?

I had a number as company cars and from what I remember they were Michelin's at the time (Michelin Energy?) I could be (very) wrong though!

>Jamie
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Re: A Tyre to avoid
« Reply #52 on: 06 March 2011, 23:02:49 »

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Can anyone enlighten us as to what the standard fit(s) were on the Omega through it's production?

I had a number as company cars and from what I remember they were Michelin's at the time (Michelin Energy?) I could be (very) wrong though!

>Jamie

Pilot Primacy, if I recall correctly.

Kevin
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Re: A Tyre to avoid
« Reply #53 on: 06 March 2011, 23:05:59 »

I had a Mazda 6 from new in 2004, a fire breathing 1800cc's of pure, asmhatic, POWER.

It was delivered on Bridgestones which were so shockingly bad in the wet that I nearly got wiped out on the first roundabout I pulled away from. In the dry, great, but just so useless in the wet.

I complained to Mazda UK and got the usual 'tyres are very important and many brands of tyre were considered etc etc'.

As soon as my fleet hire company would let me I swapped them to Michelin Pilot Primacy. The difference in the wet was night and day and I couldnt tell a difference in the dry.

Now these weren't budget tyres, but it has put me off Bridgestones forever!!

Wayne
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