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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #30 on: 11 April 2011, 21:44:26 »

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IMO, a replacement brand name part worn is safer than many of the Chinese budget tyres.  Had it not of been for the availability of Part Worn tyre, my Miggy would have been off the road when I was made redundant 2 years ago...

I always have a good look at them and keep a close eye on the tyre pressure for the first few days...  The only thing I will say is make sure you get them to change the Valve (many places don't)


it depends.. if you prefer a 2mm tread  famous brand old tyre with an 7-8 mm new chinese tire, I'm afraid you will loose the bet.. apart from that tire age is also a very important factor..  when the tire looses its softness even tire with a 7-8 mm  thread can not be considered safe ..

Like I say, I'll check the tyre first, and I'll only have a tyre that has at least 5-6mm of tread..  And with the roads I have to drive on, there is no way, I would consider budget tyres... 
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #31 on: 11 April 2011, 21:50:39 »

there really is no point selling a partworn with less than 3mm, and realistically, the only ones worth buying are 4-5mm+
You're getting half the tyre life, for much less than half then money of the original tyre.
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #32 on: 11 April 2011, 21:52:21 »

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there really is no point selling a partworn with less than 3mm, and realistically, the only ones worth buying are 4-5mm+
You're getting half the tyre life, for much less than half then money of the original tyre.
half life is approx 6mm, you have to take into account fitting costs...
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #33 on: 11 April 2011, 21:58:03 »

Fit your own - seemples. ;)
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #34 on: 11 April 2011, 22:00:03 »

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Fit your own - seemples. ;)
Not sure I could balance them...
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #35 on: 11 April 2011, 22:26:08 »

if you will use old tires this may be useful
http://www.griptyresoftener.com/

and this one
http://www.austin7.org/tyre_ageing.htm
« Last Edit: 11 April 2011, 22:34:18 by cem_devecioglu »
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #36 on: 11 April 2011, 22:35:30 »

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there really is no point selling a partworn with less than 3mm, and realistically, the only ones worth buying are 4-5mm+
You're getting half the tyre life, for much less than half then money of the original tyre.
half life is approx 6mm, you have to take into account fitting costs...

Explain?

If a new tyre has 8mm (most do, some have 10...but for the sake of this example it has 8)

if you take away the minimum legal tyre tread depth of 1.6mm, which leaves you with 6.4mm of useable depth when new.

Half of this useable depth is therefore 3.2mm....which when combined with the 1.6mm or legal requirement gives you 4.8mm of tread.....which is half....

i think i'm right

but correct me if i have made a mistake in those calcs
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #37 on: 11 April 2011, 22:38:22 »

and with regards to fitting costs,

even if i pay £10 a corner for fitting and balancing....which is the going rate around by me (a steep one at that),
i still save massively on the original cost of tyres.

A new 225-55-16 tyre for the omega at the cheapest of the cheap new is £65 fitted near me.
A decent make is more like £100

it costs me £10-15 for a decent make partworn with 5mm tread, plus the £10 fitting and balancing.

i'm out £20-25 for half the tyre life.

Yes please
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #39 on: 11 April 2011, 23:21:02 »

from a quick search methylnaphthalene is the best material as factories also use that.. but its extremely dangeorus for health and dont know they sell it ready to use :-/
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #40 on: 12 April 2011, 08:20:30 »

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i've been using part worns for 6 years and never had an issue....not one problem.


Me too.
In fact when I got my Toffee box MV6 wheels refurbed, I had Conti part worns put on. Never a problem at all. Interestingly enough, when I took the tyres off the CDX wheels that had been fitted 'new' (so the dealer told me when I bought the car) - they were all puncture repaired.
One cheeky bastard of a car dealer (what's new?)

When getting part worns I always check 'em over and get them tested on the wheel, and so far never a problem.

As I currently have 452's on my 19's (now I know why my car likes to make sudden, unexpected detours in a different direction) I'm looking for part worn Contis or Potenzas to replace 'em

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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #41 on: 12 April 2011, 09:19:12 »

As this thread has now gone off on a tangent and missed my original personal original point, I will re-state it.

A large percentage of these second hand tyres come from written of vehicles.......i.e., they have suffed an accident bad enough to cause them to be beyond economical repair.

Now clearly if you buy a second hand car, its normaly pretty obvious the state the car is in and hence you have a much smaller risk (and its all about risk here)

And as for the second hand tyre seller saying its the likes of the Germans dumping good tyres when they change to winter ones, thats a load of rubbish as they have a second set of steel wheels with the winter tyres on (as you dont want chains on good alloys ideally!).

Now clearly an inspection is a way of helping to minimise the risk but, I personaly wont use them until there is a compulsary tyre test introduced for them which is carried out before they are sold (and to me its crazy there isnt as they are sold as fit for purpose).  :y
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #42 on: 12 April 2011, 09:28:36 »

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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #43 on: 12 April 2011, 09:31:23 »

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Some intersting and well considered advice here:

http://www.rospa.com/roadsafety/adviceandinformation/vehiclesafety/tyresafety/tyres-information.aspx#Partworn


The tyre industry continues to express concern about the sale and use of part worn tyres

about says it all!  ::) ::) ;)
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Re: Part worn tyres
« Reply #44 on: 12 April 2011, 09:33:24 »

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As this thread has now gone off on a tangent and missed my original personal original point, I will re-state it.

A large percentage of these second hand tyres come from written of vehicles.......i.e., they have suffed an accident bad enough to cause them to be beyond economical repair.

Now clearly if you buy a second hand car, its normaly pretty obvious the state the car is in and hence you have a much smaller risk (and its all about risk here)

And as for the second hand tyre seller saying its the likes of the Germans dumping good tyres when they change to winter ones, thats a load of rubbish as they have a second set of steel wheels with the winter tyres on (as you dont want chains on good alloys ideally!).


Now clearly an inspection is a way of helping to minimise the risk but, I personaly wont use them until there is a compulsary tyre test introduced for them which is carried out before they are sold (and to me its crazy there isnt as they are sold as fit for purpose).  :y

yep.. and in case they are scratched by the wheel-shop some fight like I did saturday :P
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