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[russ0205]

My brother had a volvo c30 1.6 diesel for a couple of hours yesterday as he is just buying one. well giving it loads of right foot it still returned 63mpg  and only £30 a year road tax.not as comfortable as the mig i found but hey with that mpg,
 

[o-meg-a]

I think the Omegas a well past it when it comes to MPG tbh.

I had a 59 plate Passat 2.0 litre TDI highline, (top of the range)
As a hire car for 2 months after an accident (not at my own expense thank god)

It was the 130bhp one and was quick when needed, VERY comfortable, and on a run i could happily get 62mpg, and at least 49mpg with a heavy foot and around town.

All that in a car which i would say despite being Wrong wheel drive, had nearly as much space as the omega does.

I cant afford one of those yet though...lol

[tunnie]

Modern diesels do appear to be very good on fuel, but my argument is they still cost, what £20,000 ?

With an Omega costing sub £1k, ok it may get crappy MPG (not on LPG  ) but even V6 petrol, its going to take a very long time to make back the savings.

[o-meg-a]

this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.

You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...

A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k

[Marks DTM Calib]

this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.

You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...

A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k

Which is still 4-6K more and thats a HELL of a lot of fuel

[tunnie]

this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.

You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...

A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k

Which is still 4-6K more and thats a HELL of a lot of fuel

Yup, my cost for my LPG conversion was around £700. Including the odd Curry and hotel to keep a certain LPG expert ticking over 

My fuel savings were around 30-40%, in money terms around £10 per day on a 150 mile commute. Mine was paid off in around 4 months.

Unless you do seriously big miles, its going to take a looooong time to recover £4k

Not to mention how much I save through DIY maintenance, trade parts, its cheap as chips to service....

[Lazydocker]

this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.

You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...

A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k

Which is still 4-6K more and thats a HELL of a lot of fuel

Yup, my cost for my LPG conversion was around £700. Including the odd Curry and hotel to keep a certain LPG expert ticking over 

My fuel savings were around 30-40%, in money terms around £10 per day on a 150 mile commute. Mine was paid off in around 4 months.

Unless you do seriously big miles, its going to take a looooong time to recover £4k

Not to mention how much I save through DIY maintenance, trade parts, its cheap as chips to service....

But that is something you can still do with any car

[tunnie]

this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.

You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...

A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k

Which is still 4-6K more and thats a HELL of a lot of fuel

Yup, my cost for my LPG conversion was around £700. Including the odd Curry and hotel to keep a certain LPG expert ticking over 

My fuel savings were around 30-40%, in money terms around £10 per day on a 150 mile commute. Mine was paid off in around 4 months.

Unless you do seriously big miles, its going to take a looooong time to recover £4k

Not to mention how much I save through DIY maintenance, trade parts, its cheap as chips to service....

But that is something you can still do with any car

True to an extent, but, this forum counts for an awful lot. My recent issue with engine cutting out, it was resolved in minutes! Not the usual issue but a bare ware for the heated seat!

So much knowledge is here, any engine any problem. Very few forums are as good as this!

[henryd]

this is true,
but there are plenty of 1st, 2nd and maybe even 3rd generation Common Rail engines in used cars on the market.

You're talking about new vs used, when realistically, you should compare used vs used...

A used Passat as mentioned above with the same engine and maybe 70k or so on the clock (comparable with a very low mileage Omega) would cost much less than £20k, more like 5-7k

Which is still 4-6K more and thats a HELL of a lot of fuel

Yup, my cost for my LPG conversion was around £700. Including the odd Curry and hotel to keep a certain LPG expert ticking over 

My fuel savings were around 30-40%, in money terms around £10 per day on a 150 mile commute. Mine was paid off in around 4 months.

Unless you do seriously big miles, its going to take a looooong time to recover £4k

Not to mention how much I save through DIY maintenance, trade parts, its cheap as chips to service....

But that is something you can still do with any car

True to an extent, but, this forum counts for an awful lot. My recent issue with engine cutting out, it was resolved in minutes! Not the usual issue but a bare ware for the heated seat!

So much knowledge is here, any engine any problem. Very few forums are as good as this!

very true Tunnie,I had a look at a peugeot forum recently and it was useless

[Lazydocker]

But that is something you can still do with any car

True to an extent, but, this forum counts for an awful lot. My recent issue with engine cutting out, it was resolved in minutes! Not the usual issue but a bare ware for the heated seat!

So much knowledge is here, any engine any problem. Very few forums are as good as this!

Can't argue with that... Although there's a lot of knowledge for other cars on this forum too

I am a member of quite a few different forums (fora?) and none of them are as friendly and helpful as this one I wouldn't even consider spending time with a complete stranger (as you were when I came down to do your conversion ) some 150 miles away for any of the other forums

As has been discussed many times, I have made many acquaintances and some good friends through this forum, something I can't say for any of the others I'm a member of

[Marks DTM Calib]

Of course the average consumption of the Volvo will also drop like a stone when it starts its DPF regen!

[tunnie]

Of course the average consumption of the Volvo will also drop like a stone when it starts its DPF regen!

How long do those cycles last? Reading up on it, ECU injects diesel straight into the exhaust   

[Marks DTM Calib]

Of course the average consumption of the Volvo will also drop like a stone when it starts its DPF regen!

How long do those cycles last? Reading up on it, ECU injects diesel straight into the exhaust   

10 plus minutes, consumption drops to about 20-30mpg tops.

They work by over fueling late into the cycle, the unburnt fuel then ignites in the cat and the DPF temperature then rockets.

[tunnie]

Of course the average consumption of the Volvo will also drop like a stone when it starts its DPF regen!

How long do those cycles last? Reading up on it, ECU injects diesel straight into the exhaust   

10 plus minutes, consumption drops to about 20-30mpg tops.

They work by over fueling late into the cycle, the unburnt fuel then ignites in the cat and the DPF temperature then rockets.

Useful to know, thats 

[Marks DTM Calib]

I should add that on the Volvo lumps they have a little issue with bore wash as a result....this fills the sump and the result is an over revving engine (we had two die this way at work).

The trick is to recognise the regen is happening and drive accordingly but sadly, this is not always possible (and hence why I would not recommend a modern diesel to somebody who does mainly town/city driving).