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[Del Boy]

http://www.mobil1.com.au/performance/miles.aspx

Interesting stuff I think 

[feeutfo]

No cold starts.

Impressive though. 

[Omega_Dan]

Interesting. most decent oils would probably achieve  similar results mind.

[Del Boy]

No cold starts.

Impressive though. 

Very valid point actually 

[aaronjb]

If you assume 30mpg, that's ~150,000 litres of fuel.. if you started the test now and petrol prices remain static over the duration it would cost you some £208,000, not including purchasing the car 

That's some expensive marketing.. 

[aaronjb]

No cold starts.

Impressive though. 

There were probably a few - I don't think I'd want to be changing the spark plugs on a red hot engine, for example (and it says they serviced it, so I assume plugs would be on the list somewhere). Although you could do the oil change hot (if you have asbestos hands).

A far cry from 'real world' though, you're right.

[feeutfo]

Well ok, there was certainly one cold start.   

[Kevin Wood]

You could probably do the same test with any engine and any oil for the reasons stated. Mostly at 85 MPH? Sometimes as low as 45MPH? Hardly a realistic test. Let's add some 2 mile trips to the supermarket, 2 or 3 cold starts per day, sitting in traffic, thrashing the bejeesus out of it while cold, etc. 

After all, engines in generators, locomotives, plant, etc. will last the equivalent of millions of miles because they aren't subjected to the modes of operation that wear a car engine.

[Marks DTM Calib]

You could probably do the same test with any engine and any oil for the reasons stated. Mostly at 85 MPH? Sometimes as low as 45MPH? Hardly a realistic test. Let's add some 2 mile trips to the supermarket, 2 or 3 cold starts per day, sitting in traffic, thrashing the bejeesus out of it while cold, etc. 

After all, engines in generators, locomotives, plant, etc. will last the equivalent of millions of miles because they aren't subjected to the modes of operation that wear a car engine.

Loco engines have it quite bad, they sit idling for ages, glaze the bores up and then have to go straight to full power....its been the demise of many of them (particularly Deltics and 60's!)

[Marks DTM Calib]

They also dont say if there was any load on the rollers........

[Omegatoy]

Note it only says the "EQUIVALENT" of a million miles, dont say it actually did it!!
however there have been a few cars in real life which have gone t a million, volvo i remember did it, iowned by a yank funny enough,

cours :ye Trucks usually do around a million before they are rebuilt,

[tomoco]

Years ago a company i used to buy chipboard from bought a fleet of arctics (6 i think) the sixth one was supplied at a discounted price on the condition that the engine was kept running, only being turned off during servicing etc. This truck was used in a real working environment, deliveries, traffic jams etc. 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
It was an engine/gearbox test rather than an oil test.

The results were impressive. It out lived the rest of the fleet by 3 years, covering over 1.5 million kilometers a year.

It just tells us what we already should know. Regular oil changes and longer trips are better for any engine.

[aaronjb]

Note it only says the "EQUIVALENT" of a million miles, dont say it actually did it!!

Actually you raise a good point.. something doesn't stack up in the maths there..

4 years = 1460 days = 35040 hours

If you assume a 'worst case' of it continually doing the slowest speed they state (45mph) then it should have covered 1,576,800 miles. Yet they say it 'mostly' did 85mph, so assume an average 60mph and it should have covered 2,102,400 miles.

Even knocking a fair chunk off for servicing it should have covered a lot more than 1,000,000 miles, no?


Marketing.. it's all smoke & mirrors eh?

[Kevin Wood]

Note it only says the "EQUIVALENT" of a million miles, dont say it actually did it!!

Actually you raise a good point.. something doesn't stack up in the maths there..

4 years = 1460 days = 35040 hours

If you assume a 'worst case' of it continually doing the slowest speed they state (45mph) then it should have covered 1,576,800 miles. Yet they say it 'mostly' did 85mph, so assume an average 60mph and it should have covered 2,102,400 miles.

Even knocking a fair chunk off for servicing it should have covered a lot more than 1,000,000 miles, no?


Marketing.. it's all smoke & mirrors eh?

That's one way to put it. Another is "that which periodically drops from the rear end of a bovine male".

[feeutfo]

Note it only says the "EQUIVALENT" of a million miles, dont say it actually did it!!

Actually you raise a good point.. something doesn't stack up in the maths there..

4 years = 1460 days = 35040 hours

If you assume a 'worst case' of it continually doing the slowest speed they state (45mph) then it should have covered 1,576,800 miles. Yet they say it 'mostly' did 85mph, so assume an average 60mph and it should have covered 2,102,400 miles.

Even knocking a fair chunk off for servicing it should have covered a lot more than 1,000,000 miles, no?


Marketing.. it's all smoke & mirrors eh?

That's one way to put it. Another is "that which periodically drops from the rear end of a bovine male".

I get forced to watch such things on tv now and then. Sir Allan Sugar sacked the Technician in one episode, merely for being an Technician it seems. Saying something like "in all my days in sales I've never known an Technician sell a bean"

Or believe a single word from a salesman either!   

Yep, word filter cocked that up for me didn't it!