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V6 - V8 update
« on: 09 October 2008, 13:38:14 »
a few pics from today - started to remove the old MV6 lump, (with a little help from mutantcav!) he's coming to buy and remove the rest of the stuff.
Will update soon chaps   :y



LOOK AT THE SPACE!!!! MAY PUT A V12 IN...........



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Re: V6 - V8 update
« Reply #1 on: 09 October 2008, 13:56:39 »
Can't wait to see this on a track...
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« Reply #2 on: 09 October 2008, 14:05:04 »
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Can't wait to see this on a track...

You and me both mate!!

below is the old post back a few months ago when it all started...

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1213782897

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Re: V6 - V8 update
« Reply #3 on: 03 December 2008, 20:20:05 »
imo one thing stopping you ram in a very big lump is how the radiator is so far back! it's in the middle of nowhere really!
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Re: V6 - V8 update
« Reply #4 on: 04 December 2008, 15:07:40 »
Instead of a V8 have you considered a I6... the 2JZ-GTE From toyota works wonders... here in the states those motors put out between 600-1200hp... and they bolt on, the mounts are in the same locations all you need is extender/adaptor plates to reach up to the engine mount... and the gearbox is bullet proof... all you need is a better rear diff and some stand alone AEM ECU stuff... and farily easy to make the car into a  monster...

V8=weight ... not so much power...

I6 Twin Turbo=light and powerfull..
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Re: V6 - V8 update
« Reply #5 on: 05 December 2008, 14:03:17 »
I6/S6 will make it too nose heavy, plus a single wiper conversion is needed to shoe horn it in
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« Reply #6 on: 05 December 2008, 14:35:52 »
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I6/S6 will make it too nose heavy, plus a single wiper conversion is needed to shoe horn it in


Ow yes, as fitted on the S6/I6 diesel engine, wait a minute....that has twin wipers  :y

And it has a long block (long stroke)

Your right though, does nothing for the weight distribution and I see no reason why a S/I6 would be lighter than a V8....particularly an LS1/2
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Re: V6 - V8 update
« Reply #7 on: 07 December 2008, 11:31:26 »
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I6/S6 will make it too nose heavy, plus a single wiper conversion is needed to shoe horn it in


Ow yes, as fitted on the S6/I6 diesel engine, wait a minute....that has twin wipers  :y

And it has a long block (long stroke)

Your right though, does nothing for the weight distribution and I see no reason why a S/I6 would be lighter than a V8....particularly an LS1/2

depending on the spec of the engine you can get alloys heads and probably block (i havnt looked into that) but you can defo get alloy heads on the v8's which makes the engine about the same weight as the V6 version of the engine

also mark... there ls1 and 2 are two different engines and the ls1 is the earlier version of the ls7 and ls2 earlier version of the ls6 (just for future reference to everybody really)
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« Reply #8 on: 08 December 2008, 12:14:51 »
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Instead of a V8 have you considered a I6... the 2JZ-GTE From toyota works wonders... here in the states those motors put out between 600-1200hp... and they bolt on, the mounts are in the same locations all you need is extender/adaptor plates to reach up to the engine mount... and the gearbox is bullet proof... all you need is a better rear diff and some stand alone AEM ECU stuff... and farily easy to make the car into a  monster...

V8=weight ... not so much power...

I6 Twin Turbo=light and powerfull..

Been done with a Lotus Carlton engine
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« Reply #9 on: 08 December 2008, 13:10:06 »
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I6/S6 will make it too nose heavy, plus a single wiper conversion is needed to shoe horn it in


Ow yes, as fitted on the S6/I6 diesel engine, wait a minute....that has twin wipers  :y

And it has a long block (long stroke)

Your right though, does nothing for the weight distribution and I see no reason why a S/I6 would be lighter than a V8....particularly an LS1/2

depending on the spec of the engine you can get alloys heads and probably block (i havnt looked into that) but you can defo get alloy heads on the v8's which makes the engine about the same weight as the V6 version of the engine

also mark... there ls1 and 2 are two different engines and the ls1 is the earlier version of the ls7 and ls2 earlier version of the ls6 (just for future reference to everybody really)

Yes I know but, there all GenIV small blocks so alloy heads etc.. :y
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« Reply #10 on: 15 December 2008, 22:06:38 »
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I6/S6 will make it too nose heavy, plus a single wiper conversion is needed to shoe horn it in


Ow yes, as fitted on the S6/I6 diesel engine, wait a minute....that has twin wipers  :y

And it has a long block (long stroke)

Your right though, does nothing for the weight distribution and I see no reason why a S/I6 would be lighter than a V8....particularly an LS1/2

depending on the spec of the engine you can get alloys heads and probably block (i havnt looked into that) but you can defo get alloy heads on the v8's which makes the engine about the same weight as the V6 version of the engine

also mark... there ls1 and 2 are two different engines and the ls1 is the earlier version of the ls7 and ls2 earlier version of the ls6 (just for future reference to everybody really)

Yes I know but, there all GenIV small blocks so alloy heads etc.. :y

lol not necesarily(cba to spell that right)
depends if you get a crate engine or not as the crates are direct replacement for oe spec lumps with options for tuning as it's being built or just used as a good base...
sorry i was getting technical there, what you say afaik is true.
the later engines all had alloys heads on the v8's
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Re: V6 - V8 update
« Reply #11 on: 16 December 2008, 12:15:48 »
Well the only reason I mentioned an I6 was because swaps have been done with the Toyota SUPRA 2JZ-GTE engine... which is a 3.0L 24V Sequential Turbo motor... and its a popular tunner piece, the folks around here are running between 500-1000hp on those suckers... they proove to be extreemly reliable and easy and cheap to tune...

A big 'ol V8 would be a tight fit, no chance for turboes... and you will end up with maybe 300-400hp at the max... now if the swap is going to cost similar money then why not go all out... and build something crazy...

I am considering a Lexus 2JZ engine with all the internals and a single turbo... with the manual gear box swap... perhaps a rear diff and axle upgrade and that should make for a stealthy car.... that can run 11s in the quarter mile...
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« Reply #14 on: 16 December 2008, 20:07:23 »
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Well the only reason I mentioned an I6 was because swaps have been done with the Toyota SUPRA 2JZ-GTE engine... which is a 3.0L 24V Sequential Turbo motor... and its a popular tunner piece, the folks around here are running between 500-1000hp on those suckers... they proove to be extreemly reliable and easy and cheap to tune...

A big 'ol V8 would be a tight fit, no chance for turboes... and you will end up with maybe 300-400hp at the max... now if the swap is going to cost similar money then why not go all out... and build something crazy...

I am considering a Lexus 2JZ engine with all the internals and a single turbo... with the manual gear box swap... perhaps a rear diff and axle upgrade and that should make for a stealthy car.... that can run 11s in the quarter mile...

your a few hundred bhp out there :P
V8's are good for 600bhp like a piece of pi$$!

and also there's no point turboing a V8 because quite a few are 12V so the concept of a turbo is absolute pants and your alot better going s/charged
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