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How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vista?
« on: 05 September 2007, 16:01:27 »

Reduced to considering running XP in VMWare to get this working.  Vista has some sort of native VPN client, but seems to be no way to set it up and even then it can't handle shares?!  So of course can't find anyone that does a VPN client for Vista.  Willing to buy a new VPN box, but need to be sure that it will work with Vista.  Have VPN box already, but so far no joy.  Help!  TIA!

Argh Vista sux!  >:( >:(
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #1 on: 05 September 2007, 16:24:30 »

Have you seen this?
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #2 on: 05 September 2007, 16:32:55 »

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Have you seen this?
We tried to set that up with a Symantec VPN box but couldn't get it to work.  Of course Symantec is less than helpful.  Vista documentation doesn't talk about how to set up the VPN box.  We have found some stuff online about setting up the PPTP settings ont he box, but a bit worried about taking the whole network down.

We are going to try this www.thegreenbow.com thing.  Fingers crossed!

Cheers!
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #3 on: 05 September 2007, 17:55:50 »

Without wanting to use theolodians thread for my use,

may i ask a question of you PC professionals: ::)

I want to set up a connection between 2 computers  that are 500 Miles apart,

I would like to be able to transfer data, irrelevant how big the packages are between the two PCs

answers please in "Normal English" as i am no wizzkid with this stuff, and i would like to be able to understand you

Thanks in advance



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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #4 on: 05 September 2007, 18:13:21 »

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Without wanting to use theolodians thread for my use,

may i ask a question of you PC professionals: ::)

I want to set up a connection between 2 computers  that are 500 Miles apart,

I would like to be able to transfer data, irrelevant how big the packages are between the two PCs

answers please in "Normal English" as i am no wizzkid with this stuff, and i would like to be able to understand you

Thanks in advance



ftp is the most efficient way of transferring large files.
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #5 on: 05 September 2007, 18:17:49 »

I haven't used Vista extensively yet, so haven't tried setting up a VPN. Can't help you any further I'm afraid.

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Without wanting to use theolodians thread for my use,

may i ask a question of you PC professionals: ::)

I want to set up a connection between 2 computers  that are 500 Miles apart,

I would like to be able to transfer data, irrelevant how big the packages are between the two PCs

answers please in "Normal English" as i am no wizzkid with this stuff, and i would like to be able to understand you

Thanks in advance


It depends on how often you'll be doing this, and the nature of the transfers. If it's just the occasional file now and then, I'd set up an SSH server on the remote machine and use SCP (or SFTP) to copy the files as required. If you want to synchronise files between them I'd use rsync, but tunnel that over SSH too for security. Alternatively you can set up an FTP server (although standard FTP uses plain text logins, something I'd never have on one of my systems -- I'd recommend using SSL) or even a web server, which isn't really a good approach for just file transfers but many people do it.

What operating systems are you running on each machine? Once you know what service you want we can give some guidance on how to configure it.
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #6 on: 05 September 2007, 18:19:39 »

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Without wanting to use theolodians thread for my use,

may i ask a question of you PC professionals: ::)

I want to set up a connection between 2 computers  that are 500 Miles apart,

I would like to be able to transfer data, irrelevant how big the packages are between the two PCs

answers please in "Normal English" as i am no wizzkid with this stuff, and i would like to be able to understand you

Thanks in advance



ftp is the most efficient way of transferring large files.

whats ftp, and how can i set it up, is there a monthly payment needed or is it free

i know loads of questions but i havent a clue :-[ :-[

Edit 19:21

found this         http://www.ftpplanet.com/ftpresources/basics.htm
« Last Edit: 05 September 2007, 18:21:38 by Crazydad »
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #7 on: 05 September 2007, 18:28:02 »

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It depends on how often you'll be doing this, and the nature of the transfers. If it's just the occasional file now and then, I'd set up an SSH server on the remote machine and use SCP (or SFTP) to copy the files as required. If you want to synchronise files between them I'd use rsync, but tunnel that over SSH too for security. Alternatively you can set up an FTP server (although standard FTP uses plain text logins, something I'd never have on one of my systems -- I'd recommend using SSL) or even a web server, which isn't really a good approach for just file transfers but many people do it.

What operating systems are you running on each machine? Once you know what service you want we can give some guidance on how to configure it.
As he said no techie talk, I assumed Windows, so no rsync or similar. May be able to do it via cygwin, but that product is poor.

Any form of tunnelling (inc SSL) is encapsulated. If the files are large, as implicated, this will have a massive hit on throughput, esp as (again assuming) likely simple broadband links.
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #8 on: 05 September 2007, 18:29:13 »

For free ftp, Filezilla is a decent client. Haven't used the server.  Windows XP comes with a perfectly usable FTP server anyway.
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #9 on: 05 September 2007, 18:32:24 »

Wouldn't xp's built in FTP server be enough for this application?
Basic I know but its already in xp and would probably be the easiest to setup for occasional use.
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #10 on: 05 September 2007, 18:35:50 »

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Wouldn't xp's built in FTP server be enough for this application?
Basic I know but its already in xp and would probably be the easiest to setup for occasional use.
Isn't that what I just said ::)
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #11 on: 05 September 2007, 18:40:15 »

wow most of that ha sgone right over my head :o :o

I am now completely lost :-[ :-[

How could we (me and the other pc user) set the xp ftp up ??

where is it?

« Last Edit: 05 September 2007, 18:47:15 by Crazydad »
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #12 on: 05 September 2007, 18:48:21 »

Right Guvnor. Have a look at this. It's not entirely free but it does work and it's perfect for I.T. numskulls like us. I tried it out but decided not to go for the paid service as I wouldn't get enough use out of it. Of course, both P.C.s need to be on for it to work but I guess that's the same whatever you try.

Let us know what you think.

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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #13 on: 05 September 2007, 18:50:24 »

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As he said no techie talk, I assumed Windows, so no rsync or similar. May be able to do it via cygwin, but that product is poor.

Any form of tunnelling (inc SSL) is encapsulated. If the files are large, as implicated, this will have a massive hit on throughput, esp as (again assuming) likely simple broadband links.

I asked what the OS is on both machines, rather than assume ;)

Yes, encrypting the link will slow things down, but having a server running on the internet that accepts clear text logins is too much of a downfall to me. Unless you don't care for who gets into it and accesses your files... really depends on whether there's anything you consider personal or confidential on there.

Yes he did say no techie talk, but I'd rather first find out exactly what problem needs to be solved then state what I consider the best approach, rather than give a "one size fits all" when it may actually be a poor fit. 8-)
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Re: How the He%#$ can you connect to a VPN with Vi
« Reply #14 on: 05 September 2007, 18:54:54 »

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Wouldn't xp's built in FTP server be enough for this application?
Basic I know but its already in xp and would probably be the easiest to setup for occasional use.
Isn't that what I just said ::)
Indeed, you just beat me to it.
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