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[theolodian]

Try www.potn.com.. it's a Mod site, and they have the upgraded rear rotors for the Omega, also the 3G Front Rotor pair, and obviously EBC Stuff too.There are some good Brake upgrades on that site.

Cheers.

Matt

Cheers!  Yeah, they've got what I'm talking about.  310mm two piece slotted rotors with brackets that relocate the original calipers.  I guess I have to call to see if they have anything for an Omega.  Might be able to do something a little cheaper, but that is a really good start.

Part of the problem may be that I'm not used to driving an automatic, except in a Jeep.  There is decent initial bite, then it goes dead until you put some real pressure on, then it goes dead again at the bottom.  That first dead spot is what is so unnerving in everyday driving.  Better regular pads & rotors would help, but hard to have too much brakes so I want to see if I can do something a bit better.

[Kev]

Never had any problems with my drilled and grooved and they've been on the car over a year. The advantage of the green pad over the other variants is how long it takes for them to reach optimum, and they achieve it quicker. They are not a true 'track' pad but more middle ground. Even from stone cold the brakes are still far more responsive than the standard setup. They are also quiet during operation, they don't squeel.

With regard to brake fade, i could achieve that very easily with the standard setup. It's the 3.0 Auto i've got, a heavy beast anyway, but being the Elite, even more so, which had all round vented discs as standard, all genuine Vx, but still suffered very badly with fade, especially when braking heavy at speed. Hence my decision to upgrade, and honestly, i've not looked back.

But like they say, the choice is yours, just giving you my experience with 'em.  

If you managed to fade the brakes then you must be driving the Omega in the same way I was driving my Astra 20 years ago  

Good grief. Me? Never.  

[theolodian]

Never had any problems with my drilled and grooved and they've been on the car over a year. The advantage of the green pad over the other variants is how long it takes for them to reach optimum, and they achieve it quicker. They are not a true 'track' pad but more middle ground. Even from stone cold the brakes are still far more responsive than the standard setup. They are also quiet during operation, they don't squeel.

With regard to brake fade, i could achieve that very easily with the standard setup. It's the 3.0 Auto i've got, a heavy beast anyway, but being the Elite, even more so, which had all round vented discs as standard, all genuine Vx, but still suffered very badly with fade, especially when braking heavy at speed. Hence my decision to upgrade, and honestly, i've not looked back.

But like they say, the choice is yours, just giving you my experience with 'em.  

Yeah, thanks for that info.  It sounds like Green pads are the kind of thing I want.  The question is if I just do slotted rotors, or try to fit 310-315mm rotors.

[Kev]

Never had any problems with my drilled and grooved and they've been on the car over a year. The advantage of the green pad over the other variants is how long it takes for them to reach optimum, and they achieve it quicker. They are not a true 'track' pad but more middle ground. Even from stone cold the brakes are still far more responsive than the standard setup. They are also quiet during operation, they don't squeel.

With regard to brake fade, i could achieve that very easily with the standard setup. It's the 3.0 Auto i've got, a heavy beast anyway, but being the Elite, even more so, which had all round vented discs as standard, all genuine Vx, but still suffered very badly with fade, especially when braking heavy at speed. Hence my decision to upgrade, and honestly, i've not looked back.

But like they say, the choice is yours, just giving you my experience with 'em.  

Yeah, thanks for that info.  It sounds like Green pads are the kind of thing I want.  The question is if I just do slotted rotors, or try to fit 310-315mm rotors.

I don't think you need to go over the top dude.

You'd honestly be surprised the difference my mods have made, it's night and day, and without breaking the bank. Even better when you know the right people too.  

[theolodian]

Wish I was closer and could see for myself.  Does sound promising.  I'm spoiled from those 330mm 4-pots, but I'm not trying to recreate that.  (It's a wonderful thing being able to engage the ABS on smooth dry asphalt with soft street tires - from 100mph!  And then be able to accelerate up and do it again!)  I think that I would be happy with your setup if it were a manual.  However, it feels like the engine is fighting the brakes in the auto and I haven't dealt with auto trannies enough to know whether that is enough to make me not be happy with what you have.

[Omega-MV6]

Hi,

Yes I would agree with you.
In the auto it does seem as though the engine is fighting the brakes.
But in all honestly I think that no matter what you do that will happen to some extent.
I found knocking it into "N" helps when slowing down quickly.
EBC are a good comprimis of Price and Power.
The Brakes on mine where not bad, but after fitting the Dimpled and grooved disc, there is a noticable improvment.
Although the green Stuff Pads, wear down in no time I find on this car, I'm nearly at the end of my first set, and I've had the car less than a 2 months(!!!) not sure if that is the groved discs doing that or just the type of pads.
Either way they work well, and seem to resist fade up to a point.

I would recomend them as a first option, they are a decent upgrde and IMHO are worth the dosh.

Cheers.

Matt

[theolodian]

Hi,

Yes I would agree with you.
In the auto it does seem as though the engine is fighting the brakes.
But in all honestly I think that no matter what you do that will happen to some extent.
I found knocking it into "N" helps when slowing down quickly.
EBC are a good comprimis of Price and Power.
The Brakes on mine where not bad, but after fitting the Dimpled and grooved disc, there is a noticable improvment.
Although the green Stuff Pads, wear down in no time I find on this car, I'm nearly at the end of my first set, and I've had the car less than a 2 months(!!!) not sure if that is the groved discs doing that or just the type of pads.
Either way they work well, and seem to resist fade up to a point.

I would recomend them as a first option, they are a decent upgrde and IMHO are worth the dosh.

Cheers.

Matt

Cheers Matt.  Yeah, maybe what I really need is good pads & rotors and a chip for the auto box . . .

A Range Rover feinted leaving the roundabout last night then stayed on.  I went to go and then hit the brakes.  A manual would have stopped without sticking out so far into the roundabout.

I guess that another option would be to put a second neutral switch under a dead pedal with a strong spring.  Then if you really need to stop you just shove down on the dead pedal as well, like the clutch on a manual.

[Omega-MV6]

Yeah. I gotta say I constantly change from netueral and drive when in traffic.
Don't let the brakes hold it for too long with it in drive and stationary.
There is diffinatly a knack for the Auto when it comes to pulling out... took me a while to learn it... )
It doesn't change gear instantly either,and that has caused some "pant wettingly worrying" moments. I must say it's more down to my driving though than the G/B oil level or other problems.

Although I do hear what you are saying.
Maybe some new brake hoses could also help your problem?
The Braided Stainless Steel type. Just a thought.

Cheers.

Matt

[M-Tek Performance]

EBC are woeful when compared to a proper brake like Mintex etc.

[Markjay]

Mine were Tarox, Italian brand:

http://www.tarox.co.uk/


You can also try:

http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/performance-brakes.htm

[sounds2k]

... There is diffinatly a knack for the Auto when it comes to pulling out... took me a while to learn it... ) ...

turning on sport mode helps

[Phil]

I put EBC grooved disks all round on my MV6 and on the front only of the CDX, both with green stuff pads.

After 10,000 miles this is what the front discs looked like on the MV6:-



Cracked to buggery!!

So i fitted cross drilled and grooved Black Diamond Discs on the front:-



After 8000 miles these are still fine,


Whatever you do dont buy from Regal as they will try and sell you the wrong discs, 236mm instead of the 296mm.

Courtenay Sport do a 320mm 6 pot upgrade for a Vectra/ Astra, this might be modified to fit an Omega but i guess it would be expensive as the kit without any modification is around £1500!!

They also do a 20 groove disk that they fitted to the special turbo Omegas they supplied to the RUC a number of years ago, but these are £225 just for a pair of front discs!!

[Jim]

Myself and kev have fitted drilled and grooved disc's and kev has fitted green stuff pads, check out the photo below of kevs car:

[MV6Matt]

Interesting hearing what others do........
I took mine to Hi Spec at Dartford (always advertise in Total Vaux....ah the power of advertising....) and they fitted EBC and Red Stuff. They wont fit Green Stuff pads they told me as the cars are too heavy. Doesnt seem to be a problem for those that have fitted them on this forum from what I can see.
And the result? Very little difference from the standard discs and pads that were replaced (which were worn of course)!
Oh well!
Dont think I'll be using EBC again!
Matthew

[MikeDundee]

So who manufactures those discs, and where do you get them, I have EBC grooved/coated discs at the moment, no problems, big improvement in the breaking; Notice fitted in oppossing direction. :-/