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Pride and Joy

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Coolant Loss
« on: 15 October 2006, 17:18:54 »

 :'( Thought things were going too well. Started loosing coolant. Done approx 500 miles and have had to put in nearly 2 pints - cannot see any leaks and the oil seems OK - any ideas. Need to get it sorted before winter sets in. would appreciate any help.

Many thanks

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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #1 on: 15 October 2006, 19:08:59 »

9 times out of 10 coolant loss on 2.5 & 3.0 engines is down to the HBV, not sure if the 2.2 has one but if it does the i'm sure this is where you will find your problem. I'm sure someone will be along soon who can verify what i mean.
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #2 on: 15 October 2006, 19:11:55 »

all cars with a/c or climate have hbv.

not uncommon for them to fail...
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #3 on: 15 October 2006, 20:02:55 »

Thnx guys - is the procedure for changing the same as the 2.5 as that is documented - if not can anyone please advise on the procedure. Also is there a risk of the water doing any damage, as I was thinking of leaving it until the better weather starts - easier to top up through the winter??
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #4 on: 15 October 2006, 20:23:27 »

Its easier to do on the 2.0/22 as tehre is much better access.

I would do it now.......
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #5 on: 16 October 2006, 06:07:21 »

Could anybody please give me instructions on how to change the HBV on my car. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #6 on: 16 October 2006, 07:19:42 »

I did this job on my Catera without replacing the HBV and simply bypassing it which means you loose your heater. for me it was no big deal but ur in the the colder climates you might want to replace. Either way this is what i did, and im sure it wouldnt be further off on your rig.

you need.
Long flat head screw driver
2x clamping pliars
3" long 2/12" inlet stainless steel pipe.
Torx bits

First remove the Windshield Cowl and wipers to make room.
The HBV is directly behind the engine on the passanger side It has 4 hoses connected to it. 1 hose on passanger side and 2 on the driver side. then a smaller hose (not sure what its for,presurizer?) that goes to the top of the HBV Remove this. I also had to remove one of the tubes from the plenum as it was akwardly in the way.

With a pair of clamping pliars, clamp down the metal retainer bracket to the single hose on the passanger side (one thats easiest to get to) and remove the hose.
; I found it best using a stepping stool and also climping on the top of the engine,

Now, using some force, pul up the entire HBV unit from the bottom and lodge the flat head screw driver between the engine and cabin filter area to hold the unit in one place while u work on it.
Remove the remainder hoses.

There is one hose that goes from the drivers side into the cabin of the car. This is for the heater. I stoped it up using a wine cork and the orig. metal retainer  ;)

LAst take your stainless steel pipe and fit the remaining hoses to it... Walla. You got a HBV that cost you under 2 bones and will out last the stock unit!
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #7 on: 16 October 2006, 09:20:59 »

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Could anybody please give me instructions on how to change the HBV on my car. Any help would be much appreciated.
I don't know where it is on 2.2, but its simply a case of draining coolant, removing hoses, removing vac pipe, replacing hbv and putting back together, and filling coolant back up. If access is easy, should only take 30m or so...
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #8 on: 16 October 2006, 15:55:50 »

I have had a good look around and can find nothing that looks a possibility. There are 2 large pipes that disappear into the bulk head and all the rest seem to be single pipes around the engine bay. There is something that is below the ABS unit on the drivers side but it is totally obscured by the ABS and other bits - could that be it? :question
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #9 on: 16 October 2006, 15:58:50 »

One of big coolant pipes coming from bulkhead will go to it...
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #10 on: 16 October 2006, 16:07:16 »

Had another look - there is something under the ABS which one of the large pipes seems to go to. There is also something that is on the other pipe from the bulk head that is situated directly beneath the windscreen wiper motor - bet that is it - will have to take out the wiper motor and half the car to get at it - just my luck!

Thanks for all your help guys
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #11 on: 16 October 2006, 16:16:10 »

The one under scuttle sounds most likely. Remove wipers and scuttle for better access...
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #12 on: 16 October 2006, 16:19:07 »

Thnx - will give it a go at the weekend. My local Vx has them in stock (suprise, suprise)

Thnx again for all your help
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Re: Coolant Loss
« Reply #13 on: 16 October 2006, 17:24:17 »

Yep, its below the wiper motor.

With the scuttle panel removed there should be enough slack in the pipes to ease it into a position where it can be worked on.
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