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Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« on: 10 January 2007, 10:04:37 »
Thought I'd snapped up a bargain 3.2 Elite on 52 plate with 90k for £4,000.  There was no stereo so I haggled a hundred quid off and was happy.

Vauxhall want £950 for Siemans ncdc 2013 but do not guarantee that it'll work (no use to me).

The car has the half mono (small pixel) info screen on the dash - and comes up with brake check, bose logo, etc.  I need this stereo to enable to trip computer as there are no switches on the wiper stalk.

Is it as simple to put the ncdc 2013 in and everything works or - as I suspect - is there more to it than this.
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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #1 on: 10 January 2007, 10:21:50 »
a. Mark DTM did it I believe.

b. You will also need either the monochrome GID (Graphic Information Display) or better-still the much-coveted and very rare CID (Colour Information Display).

c. If the radio and the display did not come from the same car, you will need to ‘mate’ them with each other using Tech2. Also, if the display did not come from an identical model (e.g. it came from a 2.6 car) than it will need to be calibrated using Tech2 for accuracy of the trip info (TheBoy would know about these things...)

d. Best source to get it is keep looking on the UK and the German eBay sites, these units come up occasionally, and also keep scanning the local scrappies. If you do find one however, step in queue – some of us here are waiting for this for many years one so fair is fair…

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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2007, 10:22:46 »
Unfortunately not....the display and stereo are coded to each other with tech 2.....the only way I ahev found round it is to un-marry the two parts first or fit a part that has never been coded.....the sellers on ebay dont appear to appreciate this!
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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2007, 10:26:13 »
See also (shock! horror! it on the dark side!):

http://www.cavweb-forums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=74455

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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #4 on: 10 January 2007, 10:28:38 »
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Unfortunately not....the display and stereo are coded to each other with tech 2.....the only way I ahev found round it is to un-marry the two parts first or fit a part that has never been coded.....the sellers on ebay dont appear to appreciate this!

You mean un-marry on the donor car prior to removal? So if the donor car is dead then it renders the radio useless?

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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #5 on: 10 January 2007, 10:30:44 »
Also - Omega Elite with no trip computer controls - is this possible or am I missing something here?
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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #6 on: 10 January 2007, 10:57:41 »
The trip controls are within the radio panel, not the stalk.  Think this is with the later Elites only that came with sat nav.  This is confirmed with the audio manual that i did get!
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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #7 on: 10 January 2007, 11:01:05 »
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Unfortunately not....the display and stereo are coded to each other with tech 2.....the only way I ahev found round it is to un-marry the two parts first or fit a part that has never been coded.....the sellers on ebay dont appear to appreciate this!

You mean un-marry on the donor car prior to removal? So if the donor car is dead then it renders the radio useless?


Thats the ideal or, keep the display and radio as a pair so they are coded together....

The computer controls on the nav based setups are via the nav unit and not the stalk...
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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #8 on: 10 January 2007, 11:20:58 »
This car has the original display installed but just not the radio.

Depending on who you listen to, a replacement radio can be married with a display using Tech2; others say it can not.  Has anybody sucessfully married display and radio using tech 2 and how simple was it?

If anyone knows who took this radio out, give them a kick from me!!!!  Post pictures on youtube.com

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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #9 on: 10 January 2007, 12:47:42 »
...so if you find a 2013 you may also be lucky and find a GID (or even CID?) from the donor same car and get both together.... eventhough you don't seem to actually need a GID because you already have one, but this will potentially resolve the mating issue?

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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #10 on: 10 January 2007, 13:50:34 »
Corret because you can then un-marry the nav unit from the GID and then re-marry it to the fitted display...
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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #11 on: 10 January 2007, 18:58:49 »
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Corret because you can then un-marry the nav unit from the GID and then re-marry it to the fitted display...
Is that right? Doesn't the existing display already fitted have to be unpaired before it can be paired to new radio?
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Re: Installing Replacement SatNav on 52 Elite
« Reply #12 on: 11 January 2007, 00:54:30 »
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Corret because you can then un-marry the nav unit from the GID and then re-marry it to the fitted display...
Is that right? Doesn't the existing display already fitted have to be unpaired before it can be paired to new radio?

I was suggesting he should try getting a radio and GID/CID as a pair from a donor car and bin his existing display unit which I understand is usless if not 'divorced' properly from the radio proir to the radio removal...?

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