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[Omegatoy]

i know i sound stupid cow can i tell if i have air supention

what model?

[TheBoy]

Thanks, I will take a look tomorow, I was told that my 2002 (52) may not be able to be re-mapped or chipped as it may be a Hybrid ECU? meaning it cannot be done, would you know from the ecu nine digit code.

How easy is it to install the chip.?? :-?

Thanks for your help mate. [smiley=dankk2.gif] [smiley=dankk2.gif]


 [depends on whether or not your ecu has a chip carrier or the chip is soldered to the board? nine didgit code can tell us your version yes but havent yet seen a hybrid ecu!! as long as its a 2.5td it should be fine but as always if its a sludge pump you will probably melt teh gearbox !! unless its reasonably new!!
or has been fitted with an ar 35 at some time!!
Omegatoy

Its a 2.2dti, not 2.5td. 2.2dti only manual, not auto option. Can you get 2.2dti maps?

[Omegatoy]

Thanks, I will take a look tomorow, I was told that my 2002 (52) may not be able to be re-mapped or chipped as it may be a Hybrid ECU? meaning it cannot be done, would you know from the ecu nine digit code.

How easy is it to install the chip.?? :-?

Thanks for your help mate. [smiley=dankk2.gif] [smiley=dankk2.gif]


 [depends on whether or not your ecu has a chip carrier or the chip is soldered to the board? nine didgit code can tell us your version yes but havent yet seen a hybrid ecu!! as long as its a 2.5td it should be fine but as always if its a sludge pump you will probably melt teh gearbox !! unless its reasonably new!!
or has been fitted with an ar 35 at some time!!
Omegatoy

Its a 2.2dti, not 2.5td. 2.2dti only manual, not auto option. Can you get 2.2dti maps?

believe i havew one will have to check tho!!

[azzbo]

  
its a 99 2.5td gls does that help

[stevief]

;Dis there any way of getting more ponies from a 2.5td and can anyboby recomend a good supention set up but i also tow a caravan so it cant be to silly

more ponies is easy matre, as to susapension i have Irmsher uprated lowered springs and poly bushes, along with airshocks for towing!! so it handles well on its own and is quite capable of towing the twin axle van as well!!!

Are the air shocks on self levelling or seperate valve? Also if there are self levelling did you have to adjust it in any way?

As you may have guessed I'm looking at uprated springs but keep hitting the not suitable for self levelling bit and as all the shocks are newish I'm still undecided.

Steve

mine are self levelling shocks controlled by a manual valve!!! basicaly i just set the height where i want it depending on loads, the self levelling is just a pain tbh I simply connected the airlines to a pressure guage with a shcrader valve on it and can run them as i want!
Omegatoy

Thanks for that. I'm really surprised at the drop of 40mm as they claim a drop of only 20 - 30mm on the later models. I hadn't thought of using air shocks as a spring lifter to that extent, I used to have air shocks on a Trans Am but it just made them harder, so can you give some advise on where you got the fittings to make up the lines. The other alternative I suppose would be frigging the compressor to manual adjustment but that is probably another set of issues looming.

The biggest problem I have in uprating the springs is that going too low will put the towball too much lower for getting the van over speed bumps but there are no uprated springs available without passing over a couple of limbs to Vauxhall.

Thanks for the ideas though.

Steve

[miggy]

Its a 2.2 DTI 2002 (52) manual, ref the remap/chip, the BHP at the moment is 118, how much would it increase by with a chip/remap if possible.

Pete

Thanks, I will take a look tomorow, I was told that my 2002 (52) may not be able to be re-mapped or chipped as it may be a Hybrid ECU? meaning it cannot be done, would you know from the ecu nine digit code.

How easy is it to install the chip.?? :-?

Thanks for your help mate. [smiley=dankk2.gif] [smiley=dankk2.gif]


 [depends on whether or not your ecu has a chip carrier or the chip is soldered to the board? nine didgit code can tell us your version yes but havent yet seen a hybrid ecu!! as long as its a 2.5td it should be fine but as always if its a sludge pump you will probably melt teh gearbox !! unless its reasonably new!!
or has been fitted with an ar 35 at some time!!
Omegatoy

[Omegatoy]

;Dis there any way of getting more ponies from a 2.5td and can anyboby recomend a good supention set up but i also tow a caravan so it cant be to silly

more ponies is easy matre, as to susapension i have Irmsher uprated lowered springs and poly bushes, along with airshocks for towing!! so it handles well on its own and is quite capable of towing the twin axle van as well!!!

Are the air shocks on self levelling or seperate valve? Also if there are self levelling did you have to adjust it in any way?

As you may have guessed I'm looking at uprated springs but keep hitting the not suitable for self levelling bit and as all the shocks are newish I'm still undecided.

Steve

mine are self levelling shocks controlled by a manual valve!!! basicaly i just set the height where i want it depending on loads, the self levelling is just a pain tbh I simply connected the airlines to a pressure guage with a shcrader valve on it and can run them as i want!
Omegatoy

Thanks for that. I'm really surprised at the drop of 40mm as they claim a drop of only 20 - 30mm on the later models. I hadn't thought of using air shocks as a spring lifter to that extent, I used to have air shocks on a Trans Am but it just made them harder, so can you give some advise on where you got the fittings to make up the lines. The other alternative I suppose would be frigging the compressor to manual adjustment but that is probably another set of issues looming.

The biggest problem I have in uprating the springs is that going too low will put the towball too much lower for getting the van over speed bumps but there are no uprated springs available without passing over a couple of limbs to Vauxhall.

Thanks for the ideas though.

Steve

Had airshocks on my mustang to and yes it made them harder!! but the estate air shocks are different acting they have a kind of an airbag at teh bottom of the standard shock this is what pumps up and lifts the car, it doesent alter the hardness of the shocks at all,

my towbar with the loweed springs and the airshocks is sexactly the same height it was with teh standard springs on when the airshcks are inflated!!

[stevief]

I have been in touch with Irmscher about using their springs along with self leveling as the brochure and website contradicted each other. the response from Irmscher Technical Department is -

quote

"I have been informed by Germany that the spring kit will fit on vehicles with self-levelling with no additional parts or modifications.
 
The confusion lies with the two suspension kits that we do - spring kits (just springs all round) and full suspension kits (springs and dampers all round).
 
The spring kit is fine to fit as the original self-levelling, which is part of the dampers, is not affected.
 
Changing the full suspension with springs and dampers will directly affect the self-levelling, and in this case the whole system needs disconnecting.
 
So it appears the spring kit is fine for your Omega. Hope this helps! "

The sales bumf indicates a drop of 20mm which depending on type of towbar fitted and amount of sag on the existing springs may not cause too many problems with clearance etc.

Hope this helps,

Steve

[Marks DTM Calib]

The other alternative I suppose would be frigging the compressor to manual adjustment but that is probably another set of issues looming.

I looked at doing this on my old estate (RIP)....not hard actualy, you only need a switch to activate either a valve to release air or a relay to actuate the compressor.

[stevief]

Mark,

The original concern from Irmscher was that if the drop was too much that the leveling was activated then there was the possibiity of the spring preloading being over ridden by the shocks and causing instability problems as the air bag is only there to assist not carry out the spring function. TBH the best assisters I have used were Spax adjustables with a fixed platform coil over which along with the main springs gave brilliant handling and very little drop when towing and that is something considering it was on a Mk3 Cortina but I haven't seen them for years.

All I need to do now is brace myself before ordering the spring set!

Steve

[Marks DTM Calib]

You want a set of 30mm springs from Irmscher for an Omega Estate......want a price?

[stevief]

You want a set of 30mm springs from Irmscher for an Omega Estate......want a price?

That's the mad bit, I am going to pay over the odds for a set of springs 10mm lower (it's only a 20mm drop on the later models) than than the likes of Eibachs but I get something cheaper than Vauxhall standards and retain the self leveling. Price quoted £265 quite possibly with VAT added from dealer and £280 listed as the retail price by Irmscher.

Surely the old girl is worth pampering .

Steve

[Marks DTM Calib]

Let me make a phone call.....

[Marks DTM Calib]

Ok, Irmscher Uk have none in stock, they have just had a clear out (sold on Ebay!) so cant do them cheaper than the price you have above as they would be special order.

[stevief]

Mark,

Thanks for that. I should have made reference to the e-mail which followed the one in the post as I had already asked them to check seeing as they were selling off struts and shocks for £125 last week. They reckon 1 to 2 weeks for delivery which gives me time to get the other jobs done like brakes and LSD oil change which have been put off for a while now. The only other outlay for the springs work will be the alignment which will be the guys that did it for the strut change out as they seem to have got it right the last time but I may go for aset of camber bolts to make it a bit easier to adjust.

After that it's body work, two or three rusty bits that Vauxhall won't do because the body work checks were never done so no stamps but I'm waiting for the road works on the way to work to be finished because there are stone chips appearing every other day. The metal surround on the sunroof also needs something done because it has corroded under the paint / plastic coating and is now peeling in places which does not look good.

Thanks again,

Steve