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[rands100]

At the mo I have a 3.0 elite, getting too expensive to run. Anyone have any ideas what the fuel consumption of diesel meega will be like?
Also are the engines ok?

Richard

[JamesV6CDX]

Stick with the V6

What you spend on fuel, you'll save on DIY maintenance

2.5TD is not such a DIY engine.

[Martin_1962]

At the mo I have a 3.0 elite, getting too expensive to run. Anyone have any ideas what the fuel consumption of diesel meega will be like?
Also are the engines ok?

Richard

Look here go to trade DIY is well possible

[TheBoy]

Stick with the V6

What you spend on fuel, you'll save on DIY maintenance

2.5TD is not such a DIY engine.

Hmmmm, you reckon?  :-?

Many things are easier on the tractor - stat, pump etc etc are quick jobs.



To original poster, I own a 3.0l V6 and a 2.5TD. TBH, if you are using the TD around town, you will be disappointed. Motorway runs return mid 40s.

My average MPG day to day over a 1000 miles or so in 3.0l V6 is 24-25mpg, same journeys in TD is around 31mpg.  Both cars autos.

[Martin_1962]

Stick with the V6

What you spend on fuel, you'll save on DIY maintenance

2.5TD is not such a DIY engine.

Hmmmm, you reckon?  :-?

Many things are easier on the tractor - stat, pump etc etc are quick jobs.



To original poster, I own a 3.0l V6 and a 2.5TD. TBH, if you are using the TD around town, you will be disappointed. Motorway runs return mid 40s.

My average MPG day to day over a 1000 miles or so in 3.0l V6 is 24-25mpg, same journeys in TD is around 31mpg.  Both cars autos.

Stuff that!!

Look at my post!!

[TheBoy]

Stick with the V6

What you spend on fuel, you'll save on DIY maintenance

2.5TD is not such a DIY engine.

Hmmmm, you reckon?  :-?

Many things are easier on the tractor - stat, pump etc etc are quick jobs.



To original poster, I own a 3.0l V6 and a 2.5TD. TBH, if you are using the TD around town, you will be disappointed. Motorway runs return mid 40s.

My average MPG day to day over a 1000 miles or so in 3.0l V6 is 24-25mpg, same journeys in TD is around 31mpg.  Both cars autos.

Stuff that!!

Look at my post!!

Depends if:
a) people want to give up their boot
b) people mind having unsightly lpg fillers
c) mind having the seemingly need for constant adjustments
d) have a cheap source for lpg (at stations, around 50p here)
e) trust the chancellor not to put up tax on it.

[Nova_Turbo]

Although I've only had 2 omega's (both 2.5TD's) I have had countless other vaux's inc V6's, done loads of engine conversions etc, I think they have to be worst DIY engine vaux do! The BMW TD engine is far stronger and miles more reliable. Also a few simple modifications can take the power to that of a 2.5 V6 with loads more torque.

[TheBoy]

Although I've only had 2 omega's (both 2.5TD's) I have had countless other vaux's inc V6's, done loads of engine conversions etc, I think they have to be worst DIY engine vaux do! The BMW TD engine is far stronger and miles more reliable. Also a few simple modifications can take the power to that of a 2.5 V6 with loads more torque.

Hmmm, my experience is that V6 is way more reliable, and cheaper to fix when it goes wrong.

The BMW 2.5TD(s) is way overrated imho, not particularly economical, too heavy, prone to coolant silting up, noisey, and bloody expensive when something needs doing....

[Nova_Turbo]

Although I've only had 2 omega's (both 2.5TD's) I have had countless other vaux's inc V6's, done loads of engine conversions etc, I think they have to be worst DIY engine vaux do! The BMW TD engine is far stronger and miles more reliable. Also a few simple modifications can take the power to that of a 2.5 V6 with loads more torque.

Hmmm, my experience is that V6 is way more reliable, and cheaper to fix when it goes wrong.

The BMW 2.5TD(s) is way overrated imho, not particularly economical, too heavy, prone to coolant silting up, noisey, and bloody expensive when something needs doing....

Personal experience I guess. My experience with the V6 are problems like Heads gaskets, coil packs, oil coolers, big ends, tappets and EGR that’s without all the sensor faults like lambda, CTS and AFM. The only common fault with the TD engine is the bottom pulleys leading to premature were on the shells but that’s only because people don’t check/tighten and replace the bolt! Also owning a Range Rover with the same engine I've never had problems with coolant silting or engine noise, infact for an old diesel engine they're remarkably quiet when warm.

[Martin_1962]

Stick with the V6

What you spend on fuel, you'll save on DIY maintenance

2.5TD is not such a DIY engine.

Hmmmm, you reckon?  :-?

Many things are easier on the tractor - stat, pump etc etc are quick jobs.



To original poster, I own a 3.0l V6 and a 2.5TD. TBH, if you are using the TD around town, you will be disappointed. Motorway runs return mid 40s.

My average MPG day to day over a 1000 miles or so in 3.0l V6 is 24-25mpg, same journeys in TD is around 31mpg.  Both cars autos.

Stuff that!!

Look at my post!!

Depends if:
a) people want to give up their boot
b) people mind having unsightly lpg fillers
c) mind having the seemingly need for constant adjustments
d) have a cheap source for lpg (at stations, around 50p here)
e) trust the chancellor not to put up tax on it.

a) Fair point
b) It isn't
c) Mine hasn't been touched beyond quick checkovers for a year
d) 44p now from 41 last week but petrol is around £1
e) Heating gas is cheaper and is indistinguisable

[Martin_1962]

Personal experience I guess. My experience with the V6 are problems like Heads gaskets, coil packs, oil coolers, big ends, tappets and EGR that’s without all the sensor faults like lambda, CTS and AFM. The only common fault with the TD engine is the bottom pulleys leading to premature were on the shells but that’s only because people don’t check/tighten and replace the bolt! Also owning a Range Rover with the same engine I've never had problems with coolant silting or engine noise, infact for an old diesel engine they're remarkably quiet when warm.

Only one out of those I have suffered was a DIS and that was not the cars fault

[TheBoy]

Although I've only had 2 omega's (both 2.5TD's) I have had countless other vaux's inc V6's, done loads of engine conversions etc, I think they have to be worst DIY engine vaux do! The BMW TD engine is far stronger and miles more reliable. Also a few simple modifications can take the power to that of a 2.5 V6 with loads more torque.

Hmmm, my experience is that V6 is way more reliable, and cheaper to fix when it goes wrong.

The BMW 2.5TD(s) is way overrated imho, not particularly economical, too heavy, prone to coolant silting up, noisey, and bloody expensive when something needs doing....

Personal experience I guess. My experience with the V6 are problems like Heads gaskets, coil packs, oil coolers, big ends, tappets and EGR that’s without all the sensor faults like lambda, CTS and AFM. The only common fault with the TD engine is the bottom pulleys leading to premature were on the shells but that’s only because people don’t check/tighten and replace the bolt! Also owning a Range Rover with the same engine I've never had problems with coolant silting or engine noise, infact for an old diesel engine they're remarkably quiet when warm.

HG failures are very rare on GM V6.  DIS failures seem to be rare, unless they get wet. Oil coolers appear to be done to improper servicing. Big ends - only ever seen one V6 with big end knocking.  Sensor wise, V6 very good, with exception of crank sensor - far better than BMW engine, where sensor failure is common, esp MAF (on the later ones that have MAF), only the ECU rarely lights the EML when sensors fail!  Never seen a real MAF failure on V6 - 'MAF Failures' on V6 tend to be garages who do not know how to use the codes that the engine is telling you.

Rangies and BMW suffer from the silting, as well as the Omega. Whether or not it is a (lack of) servicing issue, I haven't yet worked out.


And don't get me started on bloody viscous fans!

[TheBoy]

Depends if:
a) people want to give up their boot
b) people mind having unsightly lpg fillers
c) mind having the seemingly need for constant adjustments
d) have a cheap source for lpg (at stations, around 50p here)
e) trust the chancellor not to put up tax on it.

a) Fair point
b) It isn't
c) Mine hasn't been touched beyond quick checkovers for a year
d) 44p now from 41 last week but petrol is around £1
e) Heating gas is cheaper and is indistinguisable

b) matter of opinion
c) does appear that people are always having to have something adjusted
d) 50p here, petrol 91p
e) if they went down route of heavier taxing, they would do the same as 'red' diesel or similar.

[Martin_1962]

Depends if:
a) people want to give up their boot
b) people mind having unsightly lpg fillers
c) mind having the seemingly need for constant adjustments
d) have a cheap source for lpg (at stations, around 50p here)
e) trust the chancellor not to put up tax on it.

a) Fair point
b) It isn't
c) Mine hasn't been touched beyond quick checkovers for a year
d) 44p now from 41 last week but petrol is around £1
e) Heating gas is cheaper and is indistinguisable

b) matter of opinion
c) does appear that people are always having to have something adjusted
d) 50p here, petrol 91p
e) if they went down route of heavier taxing, they would do the same as 'red' diesel or similar.

But there is no easy way to alter autogas as it is gasous when used you can't dye it, and getting gas out is difficult

[TheBoy]

Depends if:
a) people want to give up their boot
b) people mind having unsightly lpg fillers
c) mind having the seemingly need for constant adjustments
d) have a cheap source for lpg (at stations, around 50p here)
e) trust the chancellor not to put up tax on it.

a) Fair point
b) It isn't
c) Mine hasn't been touched beyond quick checkovers for a year
d) 44p now from 41 last week but petrol is around £1
e) Heating gas is cheaper and is indistinguisable

b) matter of opinion
c) does appear that people are always having to have something adjusted
d) 50p here, petrol 91p
e) if they went down route of heavier taxing, they would do the same as 'red' diesel or similar.

But there is no easy way to alter autogas as it is gasous when used you can't dye it, and getting gas out is difficult

Oh, I'm sure there are ways - I'm sure recalling at the time that adding the dye to diesel wouldn't work either...