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Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!!
« on: 04 August 2007, 21:10:38 »

Hi all

As you can see from previous posts I have been having a few idling issues and other issues with my car.

Today as suggested I done I few of your suggestions on the car, I flushed and refilled the coolant, took of the ICV and cleaned it with carb cleaner and also took out the windscreen wipers and mechanism to reallign them. I also pulled out a few leads and checked the wells for oil and found some so syphoned out what I could with a turkey baster ( I realise gaskets will also need doing soon!)

 All this went OK however when I took the car out after doing all this I noticed the LPG lights were on but not transfering to LPG(even when pressing button) and just staying on petrol.  I stopped and checked the 2 LPG fuses whch were both fine but when I tried car again no lights at all come on the dashboard indicator.

I have now retaken out the wiper mechanism to see if I could see anything different but there seems to be no loose wires etc and I cant smell any gas?

Does anyone have any ideas?  Is car safe to drive?

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Re: Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!
« Reply #1 on: 04 August 2007, 21:49:00 »

Car should be fine to drive - if it was leaking lpg, you would smell it.  Just a case of retracing steps, probably electrical.
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Re: Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!
« Reply #2 on: 05 August 2007, 10:45:32 »

I have had a friend who is more mechanically minded them me look at the car and as far as he can tell the areas I have been working on do not contain any LPG wirng that I could have dislodged etc.

Could the LPG ECU just need reseting and if so does anyone have any ideas where that is?

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Re: Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!
« Reply #3 on: 05 August 2007, 17:32:07 »

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Hi all

As you can see from previous posts I have been having a few idling issues and other issues with my car.

Today as suggested I done I few of your suggestions on the car, I flushed and refilled the coolant, took of the ICV and cleaned it with carb cleaner and also took out the windscreen wipers and mechanism to reallign them. I also pulled out a few leads and checked the wells for oil and found some so syphoned out what I could with a turkey baster ( I realise gaskets will also need doing soon!)

 All this went OK however when I took the car out after doing all this I noticed the LPG lights were on but not transfering to LPG(even when pressing button) and just staying on petrol.  I stopped and checked the 2 LPG fuses whch were both fine but when I tried car again no lights at all come on the dashboard indicator.
I have now retaken out the wiper mechanism to see if I could see anything different but there seems to be no loose wires etc and I cant smell any gas?

Does anyone have any ideas?  Is car safe to drive?

Thanks

If your not getting any lights on the lpg switch then it does sound electrical as TB says....strange tho you had lights on before and since checking the fuses no lights.....sure they are plugged in ok?
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Re: Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!
« Reply #4 on: 05 August 2007, 18:02:59 »

I have just taken the car for a spin and the Engine managment light has come on.  I have done the paperclip trick and am getting 3 error codes, 135, 13 and 89 in that order.  Also I have noticed the sunroof is now not working, have checked fuse and seems fine?

Any ideas?  What the hell have I done!!!

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Re: Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!
« Reply #5 on: 05 August 2007, 19:46:14 »

time to be systematic, go though every fuse in the fuse box and check them.

Have you tried to re-set the sunroof? Press and hold the sunroof button and it should cycle though settings....
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Re: Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!
« Reply #6 on: 05 August 2007, 21:34:15 »

Those codes (13 and 89) are o2 sensors open circuit.
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Re: Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!
« Reply #7 on: 05 August 2007, 22:09:13 »

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Those codes (13 and 89) are o2 sensors open circuit.

Most likely connected with the problems you're having with the LPG system -- most LPG ECUs will intercept the lambda signals when running on gas to prevent the car's ECU thinking there's a fault due to the differences in mixture control between the two fuels.

I'd concentrate on working out what's gone wrong with the LPG system, and you may find the fault codes cure themselves.

From your original post (where the LPG lights are flashing but not switching over) it may be something to do with the cooling system. If the vapouriser doesn't get a good supply of hot coolant then it won't switch over. Make sure all the air is bled from the cooling system and the level is correct. It sounds like you've since developed an electrical issue though, since the lights aren't coming on at all (which probably ties in with the lamda sensor errors as mentioned previously).
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Re: Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!
« Reply #8 on: 05 August 2007, 23:23:16 »

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Those codes (13 and 89) are o2 sensors open circuit.

Most likely connected with the problems you're having with the LPG system -- most LPG ECUs will intercept the lambda signals when running on gas to prevent the car's ECU thinking there's a fault due to the differences in mixture control between the two fuels.

I'd concentrate on working out what's gone wrong with the LPG system, and you may find the fault codes cure themselves.

From your original post (where the LPG lights are flashing but not switching over) it may be something to do with the cooling system. If the vapouriser doesn't get a good supply of hot coolant then it won't switch over. Make sure all the air is bled from the cooling system and the level is correct. It sounds like you've since developed an electrical issue though, since the lights aren't coming on at all (which probably ties in with the lamda sensor errors as mentioned previously).


Thanks so sounds like issue could be with cooling system, how do I make sure all air is bled from the system?

Thanks

Shaun
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Re: Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!
« Reply #9 on: 06 August 2007, 10:14:02 »

Hi

I have an update When I started car this morning the check cooling level warning came on so I left engine running and topped up the coolant level and when I got back into the car the engine management light had gone out.  However after about 5 mins driving it has come back on again and the LPG is is still not working, do I need to bleed the cooling system stil and if so how do I do it.  Also once that is done will the LPG system need resseting to get it working again and if so how would I do this?

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Re: Help!!! LPG stopped working what have I done!!
« Reply #10 on: 10 August 2007, 23:23:33 »

1) Are all solenoids working?

2) Is the temperature probe for the cooling system and LPG located OK? (look on the evaporator)

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