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[holey head]

just checked mine and yep it's from there!!!! both pipes corroded to fook!!!!! one of them is spraying a jet out!

what is it i need then is it? the whole thing!!! my problem is like grumpy's pipe knackered!

[Grumpy]

Hi sparks3ks.

I had a feeling there would be a few of these.

Look at my 'How To' in the section it's been moved to.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1186065848

You'll see that the part you require is just the plate that you can
see with the pipes sticking out of it.

The part numbers on my packet was : 1#9128199
Other numbers, whatever they are: 8 15 94 and GR.3.910

Price is £48 + vat.

You may need a new pump plate seal if your's is all Pete Tong.

I also replaced the 4 hose clips for adjustable ones at 50p each.
Up to you what you do.

[holey head]

cheers grumpy, i'll change everything. where can i get adjustable clips from?

from vx it's only costing me 44 +vat

[Grumpy]

Hi sparks3ks.

I just took one of the original clips with me to my local
car spares shop, and checked for size against the range
they hold in 'general parts' bins.

I like to use local independents, whenever I can. If we don't
support our local traders, they'll die out and we'll be left at
the mercy and monopoly of the dealerships.

A case of use it, or lose it.

[Craig_R]

Boooo I dont think i can check mine as i have a big old LPG tank in the way Grrrr

[holey head]

thanks for info been down to stealers, paid for parts "special order only", got cover plate sealing ring and gasket. cost of £51 inc vat. not bad ithought.
will go get clips tuesday from local independant, how long would u say it'll take?

cheers steve leeds

[Grumpy]

how long would u say it'll take?

Hi to Steve at Leeds from Steve at Manchester.  

You should be able to amble quietly through the job in under an hour.

Time isn't important. What is important is that you do a quality job,
considering this is your main pressure fuel feed.

The sparks3ks family, including your new baby (congrats), will be
travelling around in this car.
And they put their trust in you. 8-)

[Craig_R]

I had a look at mine today lucky my LPG tank did not cover up the plate, I must say i was surprised to see mine were really rusty I am going to get some rust stuff to stop it eatting away at the metal and cover it with Hammer Right

[holey head]

lol cheers. reason i asked bout time was because if i seem to get it done quick theres a chance i'll miss summat. so i'd rather know to be aiming round the hour mark not half hour.

cheers,

[Grumpy]

going to get some rust stuff to stop it eatting away at the metal and cover it with Hammer Right

This may slow it down a little, but I fear you may be just delaying the inevitable
if my deductions are correct.

I've examined the old plate and pipe. The pipe appears to be mild steel and the
the plate has the feel of alloy about it.
If I'm correct, what we have here is dis-similar metal corrosion. The 2 materials
will have a different electrical potential. If they contact each other, a small current
will pass, similar to a dry battery cell, which will result in galvanic corrosion.
The galvanic corrosion will break the paint seal on the outside of the pipe which
will than leave it susceptible to normal atmospheric corrosion. So in effect, the pipe
will be attacked from the inside and the outside. This would result in exfoliation
of the metal, (where its splits into layers), which is exactly what happened to my
pressure pipe.

Whether, assuming I'm correct, this is a design fault, or a quality control fault
at the sub-contractors that GM farmed the work out to, is unknown.
The designer would (should) have put an adequate seperation/sealant between
the 2 metals in the design specs. So that would leave the fault with the sub-contractor.
Whether this would be the quality inspector or the worker who made it, again we
don't know.

Anyway, upshot is, if your pipes are corroded then it is a case of when they
fail, not if.

[jonathanh]

just checked mine:  Right hand pipe is bandly corroded, left hand is fine.  

What is the right hand pipe?  Is it under the same pressure as the left hand or not?  If it is low pressure I may be tempted to do a bit of cleaning and painting but at the moment I'm not tempted to risk it

[Grumpy]

What is the right hand pipe?

Right Hand Pipe has an 'R' stamped next to it on the plate and is the return
pipe. This will take the return fuel from the pressure regulating valve, and
so flow and pressure will vary according to engine operating conditions.

Left hand pipe has an 'S' stamped next to it and is the main pressure feed
direct from the pump.

[CaptainZok]

Checked mine earlier, yes supply pipe is showing signs of corrosion but no leaks when running return isn't corroded at all. Another job to do LOL.

[Ken T]

Now, if we were in USA, we would launch a class action suit and get damages from VX for bad design. But in the UK, we seem just to accept it. I remember a few years ago, when Hillman fitted a plate to protect the petrol tank from stone damage. Unfortunately this wasn't the real problem. It was wet dirt collecting on the tank weld lip and rusting away,like mine did ! .

[DJ Pete]

Just checked mine, pipes seem ok, but looks like the gasket isn't sealing properly, big wet patch right round the bottom of the locking ring.

Does anyone please have the part number of the sealing ring/gasket, my local dealer is having trouble finding it?