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[pinball]

ok for a while i have been topping up the water on a regular basis,stupid me never thought to check the hoses.thought maybe was h/g leak.till i came on here.
anyway was going down the motoway at 90....whoops i mean 70 and my coolent mess came up on the comp
sat there thinking well i have just filled it up it cant have gone that quick.........maybe a mile passes or 2
thinking i better stop at next services to add some
next thing i know sounded like the tappets wanted out of the engine and then lost all power.
well stopped and opened bonnet to find just a mass of blue smoke coming from the rocker covers, turns out the front top hose from the rad to the block had burst right where it joins to block.
question is what can i expect to find as i strip it

[STMO123]

Didn't you think to glance at the temp guage? If so, what was it reading? I would imagine you've done a lot of damage there.

[ffcgary1]

Did the engine temp hit the red on the gauge and for how long did you drive whilst ignoring the temp message, replace the hose and start the motor and see if the car starts to overheat again.You may have warped the heads and may require a new pair of heads or source a replacement pair from someone breaking a v6 on here. Good luck.

[Tony H]

ok for a while i have been topping up the water on a regular basis,stupid me never thought to check the hoses.thought maybe was h/g leak.till i came on here.
anyway was going down the motoway at 90....whoops i mean 70 and my coolent mess came up on the comp
sat there thinking well i have just filled it up it cant have gone that quick.........maybe a mile passes or 2
thinking i better stop at next services to add some
next thing i know sounded like the tappets wanted out of the engine and then lost all power.
well stopped and opened bonnet to find just a mass of blue smoke coming from the rocker covers, turns out the front top hose from the rad to the block had burst right where it joins to block.
question is what can i expect to find as i strip it

Keep your fingers crossed you might get away with it I had a Granada that did the same thing, once it cooled down and the coolant was sorted out it was o.k

[paul.c]

yes i done the same in a granada when my water pump packed in. new pump and water and of i went again

[pinball]

temp gauge looked ok,prob is when it happened a kind mate bougth some tools out to me i cut the hose and got it back on, filled it with water and it just kept filling,turned it over and it just came out of a lot of joints in the exhaust. had car towed to a garage ,he seemed to think the heads were knackerd and poss something lower down in the engine.
he quoted £1200 for just the heads and more if he finds something else.
i now have it at home and the battery is on charge at the moment hence my prob of getting in the car,
when battery is all charged up i am gonna try to start it and see.boy are my fingers ,toes,arms and legs crossed to see if it does.
dont have this kind of money so i am gonna attempt to fix it .
kinda come round to the fact it may need two new heads.
dam its a great car as well

[hotel21]

You may need to buy a brush and shovel to fix this one.......

But, to be sure.....   Let the engine get stone cold as in left overnight.

Check oil level and ensure its up to the mark, never mind the water header tank at the moment.

(edit after reading above previous post - remove plugs and turn engine over with plugs out.  If water ejected from plug holes, it really seems broken)

If no water jetted out, see if the engine starts and the warning lights all go out as they should.

Dont let it run for more than, literally, 3 or 4 seconds.

If it sounds all good, you may have got away with it.  Fix the heater hose, top up with water then start as normal ensuring all air is bled/burped out the system.  Restart as per normal and listen for any strange noises or clatters.  If there are, then it needs more severe spanner work.

Good luck......  

edit - just read the above post.  Water leaking from the exhaust joints on refilling does not sound at all good........

[hol666]

  most definately sounds bad, sorry mate!

[Markie]

most definately sounds bad, sorry mate!

yes it does sound ominous - particularly the smoke and noises you describe.

Hotel21`s advice is sound on this - please follow it and report back, [size=8]small [/size]chance its salvagable  :-/

[JamesV6CDX]

Might have to take a peek at this one... I also have some spare (anda known good) 3.0 heads..

[pinball]

ok,i have to wait for battery to charge and will let u know

[Markjay]

Didn't you think to glance at the temp guage? If so, what was it reading? I would imagine you've done a lot of damage there.

The gauge sensor needs to be immersed in coolant to work properly. If you loose a large amount of coolant, the gauge will show very low reading (due to the sensor touching air and not coolant) but the engine will still overheat. The temp gauge is only reliable if the system is full of coolant, e.g. if the fans don't cut in or the rad is blocked, but not if the coolant is lost. Something to keep in mind...

[Marks DTM Calib]

Just swap the engine for a known good one.

The heads sound like they are very toasted and god knows what state the bores and rings are in.

[pinball]

ok i have tried to start it and it wont fire.so i guess my next step is to see if i get a spark from the plugs.am i right also in thinking i go get a compression tester and while pugs are out see what the compression is

[IrmscherKris]

An engine can be had for peanuts....   (£300? + fitting £?)