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[Omegatoy]

Can you check Fuse 7

fronts work are rears on a different fuse then??

Depending on the configuration, Fuse 7 controls rear windows and rear courtesy lights...

aha!!! that could be worth a try!!!

[Omegatoy]

just remembered something!!! by the rear cig lighter are 2 empty plug sockets that look like they could be for relays?? are they the ones we are missing or are they for something complely different???

[TheBoy]

just remembered something!!! by the rear cig lighter are 2 empty plug sockets that look like they could be for relays?? are they the ones we are missing or are they for something complely different???

i think they may be something to do with rear seat heaters, but dont quote me

[Omegatoy]

just remembered something!!! by the rear cig lighter are 2 empty plug sockets that look like they could be for relays?? are they the ones we are missing or are they for something complely different???

i think they may be something to do with rear seat heaters, but dont quote me

phew thank god for that!!!

[PaulyQ]

that would be where the switches would be for heated seats... to either side of the cig lighter for def. Have them on my motor. So as an added bonus, pop down to the breakers, borrow some rear switches and there's an added extra for the car, keeping botties warm!

[psnimv6]

something worth checking is the plug at the bottom of the b post because when i fitted my electric windoes to my facelift one of mine would not work and it turned out that one of the conecters bent on pushing the new plug in and would not power up ( the switch lite up aswell) although it is unlikely on both doors but you never no HTH

[Ifield_Omega]

HI
might be a long shot if you havent found it already, but you do need a neg on the motors to make em work just cos the switches are working dosnt mean you have a neg at the motor only means you have the 12v + from fuse 7 and as they are common linked might be worth checking as you have same issue on both rear. Also valid point about rear disable switch, if thats stuck open then nothing on rear will work but lights will still operate.
 conections to motor on pre 2000 are ,1 is 12v+ straight from fuse 7, 2 is up, 3 is down and I think 6 is common with all window motors, being used as 12v all window closure from central locking. terminal 31 being ground.
hope it helps a bit

[Marks DTM Calib]

The rear window 0V connection is via the X13 adn X14 which are the B post connectors i.e. not in the door.

As for the fuse, later models use F35......early ones F7

[Omegatoy]

thank you muchly guys!!!! we got it sorted after the fronts packed up on his way home, took it all apart again and  cleaned all connectors with electrical cleaner checked all pins for straightness etc etc plugged it all in and everything is hunky dory!!! dont know which connector it was but by doing them all we made sure!
Omegatoy