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Author Topic: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm  (Read 2064 times)

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Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« on: 08 January 2008, 20:29:49 »

How do you tell them apart?

I get wheel wobble, not vibration under heavy/moderate braking. Only affects 65mph down to 55mph ish... when braking from 80.

It does not always do it, softer breaking from say 70, and no wobble...

No other vibration or wobble at lower speeds, even braking hard. Same with say breaking from 90-70, no wobble.

I fitted brand new GM discs and pads 2 years ago. Millage is now 106k
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #1 on: 08 January 2008, 20:44:03 »

Hi, You can check the steering idler arm for wear, jack NSF wheel up, and rock your wheel @ 10 - 4 if the idler arm is worrn you will notice the movement in it.

However it could also be:
Worn insides on tyres
Wishbone bushes.

I had the same problem and it turned out to be all of the above.

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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #2 on: 08 January 2008, 20:47:46 »

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Hi, You can check the steering idler arm for wear, jack NSF wheel up, and rock your wheel @ 10 - 4 if the idler arm is worrn you will notice the movement in it.

However it could also be:
Worn insides on tyres
Wishbone bushes.

I had the same problem and it turned out to be all of the above.

Carlos

Thanks

Mine could also be the bushes... wishbones have never been changed under my ownership (4 years & 25k)

Do you mean face the wheel and push it side to side with hands at 10 to 4 ?  :-/
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #3 on: 08 January 2008, 20:48:59 »

Yeah thats the one matey. ;)
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #4 on: 08 January 2008, 20:49:54 »

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Yeah thats the one matey. ;)

Ta, job for the weekend that one. As is a new fuel filter!  :)
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #5 on: 08 January 2008, 20:50:43 »

You may want to get someone else to look at the idler while your doing it as it is kinda tricky to do it and see at the same time.
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #6 on: 08 January 2008, 20:52:00 »

i know a man who could help  ;)
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #7 on: 08 January 2008, 20:54:46 »

I have what I would describe as vibration, not wobble, when braking at motorway speeds. I bought two new wishbones and will be replacing them soon, will let you know if it helped with my problem...
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #8 on: 08 January 2008, 21:02:18 »

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I have what I would describe as vibration, not wobble, when braking at motorway speeds. I bought two new wishbones and will be replacing them soon, will let you know if it helped with my problem...

Cheers, my millage is low currently but would like to get it sorted,  car feels ballanced under braking, but wheel 'wobble' is not good.

Its hard to describe, its not vibration (very small movements) ie ballancing out and going 85/90 and getting vibration though the wheel, its different to that.

The steering wheel does 'wobble' side to side.
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #9 on: 08 January 2008, 21:02:46 »

Markjay,
Vibration against wobble could be warped discs, Does the vibration get softer the slower you are under braking?
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #10 on: 08 January 2008, 21:05:40 »

Tunnie, on uneven road do you get tramlining?
If so its 99% sure to be the wishbones and inner tyre wear.
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #11 on: 08 January 2008, 21:07:55 »

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Tunnie, on uneven road do you get tramlining?
If so its 99% sure to be the wishbones and inner tyre wear.

Pulls to one side.... i think i have.... not really sure.  :-[

Tyres are excellent, very even ware on all of them. Not the most grippy tyres in the world, but the ware has been excellent, i have done 25k, and still have 6mm on the back!
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #12 on: 08 January 2008, 21:11:05 »

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Tunnie, on uneven road do you get tramlining?
If so its 99% sure to be the wishbones and inner tyre wear.

Pulls to one side.... i think i have.... not really sure.  :-[

Tyres are excellent, very even ware on all of them. Not the most grippy tyres in the world, but the ware has been excellent, i have done 25k, and still have 6mm on the back!
Those tyres may as well be made of plastic for all the good they are.

Let me know if you want me to take it for a thrashing spin...
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #13 on: 08 January 2008, 21:12:10 »

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...Cheers, my millage is low currently but would like to get it sorted...

Mine is 50k  :-[
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Re: Warped Brake Discs Vs Steering Idler Arm
« Reply #14 on: 08 January 2008, 21:13:01 »

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Tunnie, on uneven road do you get tramlining?
If so its 99% sure to be the wishbones and inner tyre wear.

Pulls to one side.... i think i have.... not really sure.  :-[

Tyres are excellent, very even ware on all of them. Not the most grippy tyres in the world, but the ware has been excellent, i have done 25k, and still have 6mm on the back!
Those tyres may as well be made of plastic for all the good they are.

Let me know if you want me to take it for a thrashing spin...

I find them perfect for my level of skill, comming back from Bicester if the road is to myself i never dip below 80 on the corners. As far as i am concered they are fanastic for my level of experiance and competance behind the wheel....
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