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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #15 on: 14 January 2008, 13:08:45 »
thanks guys... did i defo bugger the 2 i tried to pump clean then?

I was a bit shocked by the contents, i know from when James did my dads 2.2 head gasket, what state they should be. My dads ones where shinny clean!

I think those vents you talked about which pump oil in must be clogged, the oil in that area was very dark!

I know the lifters should go back in the same position they came out, but i don't think i really matters in my case??

I can pop up to Nottingham on Saturday, and bring all the lifter with me? Including the ones i *think* i have buggered.

During the evenings this week, i will clean up the brackets and cam area.
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #16 on: 14 January 2008, 19:15:51 »
is it worth having another go at the lifters i have removed, or just wait?

Also how will i know/reconise the dud lifter when i see it? Is it likley to be cracked/damaged?
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #17 on: 14 January 2008, 22:47:03 »
I have 8 followers ready to go, can do some more tomorrow, how many do you need?
All the ones I have were rigid, I heated them up slightly then filled them with hot fully synth using a hypo syringe and needle, after a bit of time to soak I put them in the vice and gently squeezed them to get the plunger moving then submerged them in warm oil and pumped them for a few mins to flush out some of the muck.
The early followers do have a return spring but they seem to have less travel than the later type. Once cleaned out they move freely under finger pressure.
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #18 on: 15 January 2008, 09:14:26 »
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I have 8 followers ready to go, can do some more tomorrow, how many do you need?
All the ones I have were rigid, I heated them up slightly then filled them with hot fully synth using a hypo syringe and needle, after a bit of time to soak I put them in the vice and gently squeezed them to get the plunger moving then submerged them in warm oil and pumped them for a few mins to flush out some of the muck.
The early followers do have a return spring but they seem to have less travel than the later type. Once cleaned out they move freely under finger pressure.

Well i the first 2 on the drivers side, go as described... the go solid and have no moment.

I think since i have stripped down this far, a whole set is needed.... what i can do is come up to Nottingham on Saturday?? with all my lifters and I can work on them too?

I don't have a hypo syringe, or means to heat the oil..... i think since its stripped down this far i might as well do the job fully... and get them all sorted!!
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #19 on: 15 January 2008, 09:36:17 »
OK Tunnie, Ill talk to Mark and see if we can prepare a full set between us ready for the w/e. I have time available on dark wet evenings but weekends are reserved for building my garden edifice.
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #20 on: 15 January 2008, 13:07:07 »
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OK Tunnie, Ill talk to Mark and see if we can prepare a full set between us ready for the w/e. I have time available on dark wet evenings but weekends are reserved for building my garden edifice.

Many Thanks  :y

How long does it take per lifter? I am more than happy to get stuck in at the weekend, once i have seen one being done.

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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #21 on: 19 January 2008, 15:15:01 »
right i am confused now, do i have the older or newer type??

Went up to MrDTM's today (even though he was out) he kindly left me a box of the earlier type lifters (also thanks to Matchless).... but they don't match what i have  :'(

I must have the later ones?? But the engine is pre-97. :-/

This is a lifter removed from my engine (bad state i know):



This is the older type Mark supplied me with:



So i must have the newer type? - Yet when i try to pump them clean, they just go solid!  :(
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #22 on: 19 January 2008, 15:25:03 »
Tunnie, I think I'm going to be your best friend.

I have 24 of those lifters (what are in your engine) in a bag in my car, and they are all known good ;)
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #23 on: 19 January 2008, 15:29:13 »
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Tunnie, I think I'm going to be your best friend.

I have 24 of those lifters (what are in your engine) in a bag in my car, and they are all known good ;)

dude....  :D :D :D :D :D

I belive mother tunnie is doing a Sunday roast tommorow  ;)  :y
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #24 on: 19 January 2008, 15:49:31 »
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I belive mother tunnie is doing a Sunday roast tommorow  ;)  :y

Is that an open OOF offer? Or just to those bearing oily gifts?  ;)  ;)
 :y  :y
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #25 on: 19 January 2008, 15:51:48 »
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I belive mother tunnie is doing a Sunday roast tommorow  ;)  :y

Is that an open OOF offer? Or just to those bearing oily gifts?  ;)  ;)
 :y  :y

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Re: crushed lifter spring?
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I belive mother tunnie is doing a Sunday roast tommorow  ;)  :y

Is that an open OOF offer? Or just to those bearing oily gifts?  ;)  ;)
 :y  :y

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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #27 on: 19 January 2008, 17:57:05 »
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Tunnie, I think I'm going to be your best friend.

I have 24 of those lifters (what are in your engine) in a bag in my car, and they are all known good ;)

dude....  :D :D :D :D :D

I belive mother tunnie is doing a Sunday roast tommorow  ;)  :y
Bugger, I'm in Surrey.  Could murder a good roast :(
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #28 on: 19 January 2008, 19:09:48 »
What position is the lower belt idler in?

Early or late style....

Do you have a mix of different ones, if not, why the hell didn't you say earlier!
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Re: crushed lifter spring?
« Reply #29 on: 19 January 2008, 19:12:59 »
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What position is the lower belt idler in?

Early or late style....

Do you have a mix of different ones, if not, why the hell didn't you say earlier!


Errrr  :-/

I went though the 6 i have taken out allready, they are all the same...

I assumed since the engine was pre97, i had the earlier type!
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