Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Search the maintenance guides for answers to 99.999% of Omega questions

Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?  (Read 1889 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Albatross

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bedford
  • Posts: 2100
  • An LSD & an S2000!
    • View Profile
Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« on: 04 February 2008, 15:02:38 »

Having just bought my 2nd Omega; a 3.2l facelift Elite. (The 1st one was technically a Carlton CDX 2.6l 24V 1991 on a J-Plate) I called the people who tweaked my Carlton, Courtenay Sport, and the man on the phone left me a bit disspointed.

Apparently the later 2.6 and 3.2 engines are fly by wire rather than cable throttle operated, so there is a lot less scope for the type of tuning I'd had done before. On the old Carlton I did have a reworked stage 2 head, high lift cams and a chip. (As it was a '91 plate I had the CAT taken off too) All he can suggest on the 3.2 is a better air filter, lightweight flywheel and a nice CAT back exhaust.

Are those really my only options?

I don't want to be letting any "back street chipper" near my new pride and joy, but is there any serious and creditable place out there who can do work on these engines?
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 106903
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #1 on: 04 February 2008, 15:23:00 »

The fact that its drive by wire makes absolutely sod all difference.

The fact it has 4 lamdas means the cats probably have to stay, unless system software modified, rather than just the map.

A remap may well help. Its a flashable ECU, so can easily be achieved if you can find a map.  I have access to the flashing equipment, but have no 3.2 maps.

Air filter won't help - OE part is plenty big enough, and cold air fed.

Logged
Grumpy old man

sounds2k

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Queenborough, Kent
  • Posts: 1005
    • Saabs and a Jag XFR
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune th
« Reply #2 on: 04 February 2008, 15:43:03 »

also given that it's a 3.2 elite, it will have an auto gearbox as only plod models had a manual gearbox, so there isn't the facility to fit a lightweight flywheel (to my knowledge!!) ... ??

... so a cat back exhaust is probably most of the improvement you can make ...
« Last Edit: 04 February 2008, 15:44:06 by sounds2k »
Logged

omega18

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Morecambe
  • Posts: 149
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #3 on: 04 February 2008, 15:48:22 »

I would have thought you would be looking at serious money to get even minor gains from the 3.2
The mods I can think of would be port and polished cyclinder head, custom manifolds, sports cats and a stainless exhaust system. Which would be expensive and not worth while ( Just my opinion on modding cars)

HTH Karl
Logged

Dazzler

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Haverhill, Suffolk
  • Posts: 4198
  • Drive it like you stole it......
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #4 on: 04 February 2008, 15:50:52 »

A re-map of the ECU is probably the best money spent verses engine improvement.
Logged
Big jobbies now finished.....Now running on LPG

Albatross

  • Omega Baron
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bedford
  • Posts: 2100
  • An LSD & an S2000!
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #5 on: 04 February 2008, 16:07:39 »

Mmm, doesn't sound promising. Maybe I've bought the wrong car.

Still I like it as it is, but it would have been fun to do similar to what I did to the Carlton 2.6. Perhaps I should have bought an older 3.0 Elite?

There's so many of the 3.0 and 2.5 about that places like Courtenay Sport have reams of "off-the-shelf" solutions to tune them. These later (rarer) 2.6 and 3.2 seem not to have the volumes about to make it worth the investment in developing the solutions. I've kind of limited myself a bit here haven't I? BUM!

Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 106903
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #6 on: 04 February 2008, 21:15:28 »

Quote
Mmm, doesn't sound promising. Maybe I've bought the wrong car.

Still I like it as it is, but it would have been fun to do similar to what I did to the Carlton 2.6. Perhaps I should have bought an older 3.0 Elite?

There's so many of the 3.0 and 2.5 about that places like Courtenay Sport have reams of "off-the-shelf" solutions to tune them. These later (rarer) 2.6 and 3.2 seem not to have the volumes about to make it worth the investment in developing the solutions. I've kind of limited myself a bit here haven't I? BUM!

Bear in mind Courtney make a load of overpriced junk ;)
Logged
Grumpy old man

omega18

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Morecambe
  • Posts: 149
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #7 on: 04 February 2008, 21:22:54 »

Now the real way to tune the omega imo is to put a V8 in it as vauxhall/gm were going too but then gave up on rather than paying courtenay sport thousands for over priced "tuning" parts
Also what parts do courtenay have for the 3.0l that aren't available for the 3.2l?
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 106903
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #8 on: 04 February 2008, 21:31:26 »

Quote
Now the real way to tune the omega imo is to put a V8 in it as vauxhall/gm were going too but then gave up on rather than paying courtenay sport thousands for over priced "tuning" parts
Also what parts do courtenay have for the 3.0l that aren't available for the 3.2l?
A turbo.
Logged
Grumpy old man

Danny

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Wigan, Greater Manchester
  • Posts: 6483
  • BLACK 1.6 BORA SHAPED JETTA!!
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #9 on: 04 February 2008, 21:33:39 »

Quote
Quote
Now the real way to tune the omega imo is to put a V8 in it as vauxhall/gm were going too but then gave up on rather than paying courtenay sport thousands for over priced "tuning" parts
Also what parts do courtenay have for the 3.0l that aren't available for the 3.2l?
A turbo.

is the courtenay one any good? are they pricey? are there any downsides apart from fuel economy?
Logged

omega18

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Morecambe
  • Posts: 149
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #10 on: 04 February 2008, 21:43:11 »

Quote
Quote
Now the real way to tune the omega imo is to put a V8 in it as vauxhall/gm were going too but then gave up on rather than paying courtenay sport thousands for over priced "tuning" parts
Also what parts do courtenay have for the 3.0l that aren't available for the 3.2l?
A turbo.

Just had a look on the coutenay website (just out of curiosity you know!) and they don't appear to do a turbo for the V6?
Although there is a lot of expensive reworked parts on there! That you can easily do with a compressor and a die grinder for a lot less money
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 106903
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #11 on: 04 February 2008, 21:56:22 »

Quote
Quote
Quote
Now the real way to tune the omega imo is to put a V8 in it as vauxhall/gm were going too but then gave up on rather than paying courtenay sport thousands for over priced "tuning" parts
Also what parts do courtenay have for the 3.0l that aren't available for the 3.2l?
A turbo.
Only one I ever saw have well fooked bottom end...
is the courtenay one any good? are they pricey? are there any downsides apart from fuel economy?
Logged
Grumpy old man

Phelan65

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • New Zealand
  • Posts: 33
  • Mine
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #12 on: 04 February 2008, 22:20:36 »

Just a thought, have you looked on the continent for any mods that say the german tuners have done to the opel versions??
Logged

bigdods

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley
  • Posts: 461
    • View Profile
Re: Elite 3.2 "Fly By Wire?" can you tune them?
« Reply #13 on: 05 February 2008, 11:46:46 »

I coudnt find a 3.2 Elite when I bought my 2nd Omega before Christmas so i had to settle for a 3.0 faclift 2000 model instead

Swap  ;)
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.021 seconds with 18 queries.