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Rust Bubble.
« on: 04 March 2008, 11:41:48 »

hello all, I have noticed a rust bubble  :'( on the top of my door, below the window. Firstly really surprised to see rust on a not very old modern car! secondly whats the best way to tackle this, its about 1cm in diameter right against the bottom window rubber. Should I leave it to a professional or have a go myself- does any one know of a good body shop place in Hampshire? Any tips appreciated.   :y
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Re: Rust Bubble.
« Reply #1 on: 04 March 2008, 11:58:06 »

Its quite a common place for rust on the Omega. I suppose it depends how confident you feel about stopping the rust forming again (very difficult) and matching the paint on the door.  
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Re: Rust Bubble.
« Reply #2 on: 04 March 2008, 12:27:25 »

Its very common - but be fair, your car is 9 years old!

You can get a touch up set from Vx ,  worth putting some Kurust or the like on it first.   The rubber strip pulls off carefully (dont bend it too much).  

But to be honest you are only going to slow it down - I've done mine twice now and its showing through again.
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Re: Rust Bubble.
« Reply #3 on: 04 March 2008, 15:29:12 »

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Its very common - but be fair, your car is 9 years old!

You can get a touch up set from Vx ,  worth putting some Kurust or the like on it first.   The rubber strip pulls off carefully (dont bend it too much).  

But to be honest you are only going to slow it down - I've done mine twice now and its showing through again.
9 years isn't old though eh? my last renault and Fords were 12 years plus with not a hint of decay.  I'll go and get a touch up set - Thanks foe the info  :y
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Re: Rust Bubble.
« Reply #4 on: 04 March 2008, 17:00:07 »

Yeah my facelift rusts like you wouldn't believe, think vx counted the plastic and glass when they quoted 75% galvanised panels on the facelift.

Anyway, I've got some experience in dealing with this issue. You need to remove the rust completely otherwise it will come back.

The only way to remove rust is to use a sandblaster on the source.  Made many mistakes using a grinder and wire brush attachment to remove rust. Came back after 6 months. You need to get your area back to bare metal.

Then feather the area around your bare metal then apply primer to build up layers, etc, then apply base colour and then lacquer, etc. etc.

VX touch up kits is really thick and I mean like tar thick. Haven't tried them with my airbrush yet but I guess it needs to be thinned out.

If you are going to try this yourself do research on painting your car and do some practice. The key is to take your time.

Another tip which no one told me, was when you apply a pearl or metallic colour coat you don't need to rub it down before you apply the lacquer layer. You apply the lacquer on top of the colour coat and give a good layer of lacquer, and then you can use very fine sand paper to smooth out any imperfections on the lacquer and blend in with the surrounding paint.

There are loads more steps involved, this is just a rough guide.
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Re: Rust Bubble.
« Reply #5 on: 04 March 2008, 17:07:32 »

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Yeah my facelift rusts like you wouldn't believe, think vx counted the plastic and glass when they quoted 75% galvanised panels on the facelift.

Anyway, I've got some experience in dealing with this issue. You need to remove the rust completely otherwise it will come back.

The only way to remove rust is to use a sandblaster on the source.  Made many mistakes using a grinder and wire brush attachment to remove rust. Came back after 6 months. You need to get your area back to bare metal.

Then feather the area around your bare metal then apply primer to build up layers, etc, then apply base colour and then lacquer, etc. etc.

VX touch up kits is really thick and I mean like tar thick. Haven't tried them with my airbrush yet but I guess it needs to be thinned out.

If you are going to try this yourself do research on painting your car and do some practice. The key is to take your time.

Another tip which no one told me, was when you apply a pearl or metallic colour coat you don't need to rub it down before you apply the lacquer layer. You apply the lacquer on top of the colour coat and give a good layer of lacquer, and then you can use very fine sand paper to smooth out any imperfections on the lacquer and blend in with the surrounding paint.

There are loads more steps involved, this is just a rough guide.
Great thanks for the info !   :y
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Re: Rust Bubble.
« Reply #6 on: 04 March 2008, 20:06:55 »

My Elite was 10 years old last week - happy birthd!!!!!!!!!, anyway ! the rust on the upper parts of the rear doors is caused by the metal clips on the rubber seal strips, they scrap off the paint and galvanised zinc finish from the steel of the door. Remove rubber seal, use loads of Kurust then use touch-up paint.
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Re: Rust Bubble.
« Reply #7 on: 04 March 2008, 22:11:32 »

Think yourself lucky, I've got 2 rust spots on my roof. Looks like tiny stone chips then water has got in and made a star shaped rust area around each one. Going to put some rust stopper on, then paint with vx touch up but Im no expert so its going to look crap grrrrrr
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Re: Rust Bubble.
« Reply #8 on: 04 March 2008, 22:39:09 »

ours has quite a few rust bubbles, but nothing serious

if you got a few not worth fixing really since its real minor

one or two could be done yourself if you were confident enough
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« Reply #9 on: 05 March 2008, 08:51:17 »

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ours has quite a few rust bubbles, but nothing serious

if you got a few not worth fixing really since its real minor

one or two could be done yourself if you were confident enough
Hmmn minor rust spots soon turn into major rust - best to get in early  :o
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« Reply #10 on: 05 March 2008, 08:53:38 »

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Think yourself lucky, I've got 2 rust spots on my roof. Looks like tiny stone chips then water has got in and made a star shaped rust area around each one. Going to put some rust stopper on, then paint with vx touch up but Im no expert so its going to look crap grrrrrr
[/highlight] Don't worry, I bet no one else will notice it.  :y
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