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« on: 29 May 2008, 12:14:04 »
Hi there!! Cool site for such cool cars, so glad Ive found it!

I am not mechanically minded, so all my maintenance is done at a local garage.

A few questions for you experienced and expert owners.... I have a 96 3.0 elite, does this have a timing belt or chain? as my garage cannot fix a chain!

I am also getting somekind of steam/heat generated paticularly when in town or on short hops. the water does not appear to be being used. I cannot see evidence of water in oil. However I have noticed that there has been some oil used in the past week since i first noticed the problem.

I thought HG but have heard that this is unlikely. have also read about oil cooler?? but again I aint got a clue!!

Any help or suggestions would be really appreciated, also does anybody have any quotes on price expected?

i intend to get belt and water pump done as no history of it and its 157,000!!

Many thanks all
Dan
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Re: hot smelly elite!
« Reply #1 on: 29 May 2008, 12:20:04 »
Hi, and welcome to OOF.

All V6's have a timing belt.  Belt and tensioners need replacing at 40k miles or 4 years without exception.  As yours has no proof of being done, you are on borrowed time.  Check through the maintenance guides for assorted 'howtoos' for the job.

Steam/smoke?  Without greater explanation, sounds possibly like the old favourite, rocker gaskets leaking oil which then burns off.  Again, do a search for a 'how to' remedy this.  Quickest way to check is to carefully pull a plug lead or two from each bank and check for oil on the lead.  They should be dry....

Engines do generate steam out the exhaust, thats jus normal combustion, particularly when cold....

have a browse around if you have not done so already.  Loads of good info here and best of all, its free!   :y

  
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« Reply #2 on: 29 May 2008, 12:23:10 »
Cool! thank you very much for the advice. did you mean pull the spark plug out to check for oil on tip?? does smell quite burnt/ fuel like. the steam was comming from under the bonnet, did not appear to be coolant.

Once again many thanx!
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« Reply #3 on: 29 May 2008, 12:27:24 »
Simply remove the plug lead from the plug, no need to remove the spark plug itself.  The lead will, most likely, have oil on it to a greater or lesser degree.  It should be completely dry.   Get a torch and look down the plug well.  Again, should be dry and most likely you will see a small (or big!) pool of oil.  Use kitchen roll and screwdriver or similar to mop up the oil as thats causing a short on the High Tension electrics and causing a misfire.

If the 'steam' is from the bonnet area and no loss of coolant, bet its the rocker gaskets....   ;)
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« Reply #4 on: 29 May 2008, 12:30:02 »
cool :) :) :) will have a look on my luch hour! better go and do some work now!! many thanks matey!

Dan
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« Reply #5 on: 29 May 2008, 12:33:12 »
Sorry, should say for the pedants among us, 'Cam Covers' and not Ye Olde rocker covers and gaskets....  

Showing my pre-crossflow and sidevalve upbringing now..... :(
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« Reply #6 on: 29 May 2008, 12:37:47 »
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Sorry, should say for the pedants among us, 'Cam Covers' and not Ye Olde rocker covers and gaskets....   .......

Surely not on this site!? They must be on the other forums that you visit! ::)  ;D
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« Reply #7 on: 29 May 2008, 17:48:34 »
You ask if the 3.0 V6 has a timng belt or chain as your local garage cannot do a chain.

My advice would be- (a) They should know what it's fitted with & (b) if they can't do a timing chain - don't let them anywhere near your engine to do the V6 cambelt :o :o
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« Reply #8 on: 29 May 2008, 17:58:27 »
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You ask if the 3.0 V6 has a timng belt or chain as your local garage cannot do a chain.

My advice would be- (a) They should know what it's fitted with & (b) if they can't do a timing chain - don't let them anywhere near your engine to do the V6 cambelt :o :o

It's ok - we're takling it this weekend. Cambelt kit, water pump, and cam gaskets/breathers.

It's in good hands ;)
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Re: hot smelly elite!
« Reply #9 on: 29 May 2008, 18:14:51 »
If James is on the case and doing the work .. "good hands" is an understatement

 :y :y :y

 :) :) :)
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« Reply #10 on: 29 May 2008, 18:18:20 »
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If James is on the case and doing the work .. "good hands" is an understatement

 :y :y :y

 :) :) :)

Agreed -- James hasn't done any work for me (YET! -- but I have some lined up  ::) )  But, from what I have read over a while, you are in good hands (ooo-eerr missus!!!).
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« Reply #11 on: 29 May 2008, 18:20:33 »
Remind me.. what were you after again?  :-[  ::)
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« Reply #12 on: 29 May 2008, 18:21:05 »
What about the HBV? if thats leaking then surley that would cause some form of steam when hitting the right hand front exhaust pipe?

Paul  :y
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« Reply #13 on: 29 May 2008, 18:22:35 »
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What about the HBV? if thats leaking then surley that would cause some form of steam when hitting the right hand front exhaust pipe?

Paul  :y

No coolant loss...
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« Reply #14 on: 29 May 2008, 18:25:08 »
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Remind me.. what were you after again?  :-[  ::)


Oh, how soon they forget  :'(   In a couple of months or so ...... front end upgrade from mixer to sequential  :)

Don't worry ---- I will keep harping on about it  ::)
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