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« on: 24 May 2008, 02:02:50 »

Before i start can i say one thing, this isn't a definitive guide this is my way of fitting my LPG kit.

I bought one from Jeremy again, purely because the last one was good and the support was excellent.

Tank, already mounted on the frame


Vaporiser with attachments


ECU and software and OBD lead (now USB :y)




Pipework

 
Injectors and loom


General odds and sods as well as the installation manual


i wanted to mount the ECU and vapouriser under the bumper, so first thing was to get that off and to a trial fit, there isn't a lot of room, but there is enough to do what i wanted,

I couldn't mouth the ECU tonight as it was gone midnight when i was doing this  ;D
The loom is now in place, tomorrow i will concentrate on the engine bay, water pipes, inlet manifold, and connecting the wiring.

The final this i did was to pain the filler neck....yes that is the wifes tumble dryer i am using  ;D ;D ;D


I have no vested interest in the company who supplied my kit, however i will say they are 10/10, Jeremy is always helpful and the product itself is geared to someone who is mechanically minded and wants to save money by fitting the kit themselves.

If you mention OOF i believe you will get some discount, i have a 80l tank and 6 cyl kit and paid less than £700....trust me that is a bargain

More tomorrow....or later on today

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« Reply #1 on: 24 May 2008, 04:08:00 »

I will watch this with great interest. Something I was thinking of doing myself but what do you do about the certificate for the insurance? THis isn't a critisium but is wise to put the regulator/ecu some where it may get damaged in a relative minor shunt?
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« Reply #2 on: 24 May 2008, 10:07:22 »

my insurance is with esure on the caddy,their response..... that will be £53 please, no certificate required.
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« Reply #3 on: 24 May 2008, 12:46:25 »

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my insurance is with esure on the caddy,their response..... that will be £53 please, no certificate required.

you have a Caddy? which one?? would like to see pics please, i like caddies :D
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« Reply #4 on: 24 May 2008, 13:08:24 »

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I will watch this with great interest. Something I was thinking of doing myself but what do you do about the certificate for the insurance? THis isn't a critisium but is wise to put the regulator/ecu some where it may get damaged in a relative minor shunt?

My insurer (privilge) just want it confirmed it i fitted  by a trained mechanic (which i am  :y)

That thought had crossed my mind but then even mounting it on the inner wing could damage it as well.....

just finished for the morning, will post some pics up later  :y
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« Reply #5 on: 24 May 2008, 13:31:07 »

cool look forward to seeing the progress
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« Reply #6 on: 24 May 2008, 15:17:07 »

Looks good  :)

Appears you're putting the vapourisor the same place they put mine ... just above the horns. Seems to fit quite snugly in there :)

Just filled up my beast .... 283 miles / 64.88 Ltrs LPG = £35.04 p

Works out as 19.8 mpg or 12.38 p/mile

Equivalent petrol costs @ 23 mpg / £1:14.9 ltr = £64.19 or 22.68 p/mile

This shows the savings to be around 10p/mile

as I do around 900-1000 miles / month ......   all I can say is  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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« Reply #7 on: 24 May 2008, 21:27:48 »

Looks good... I'll be watching this with great interest as I'm planning to fit mine in the very near future!!!
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« Reply #8 on: 24 May 2008, 22:19:02 »

Interesting to see how it is going.
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« Reply #9 on: 25 May 2008, 00:22:16 »

Been a constructive day....after a fashion  ;)

95% of the front end is in, all the waterpipes are plumbed in, i did the same as last time and took my feed from the pipe that runs between the bridge and the HBV


Once that was done it was then on to the inlet manifold, 6mm holes

I ran into a small problem that will mean i wont be able to complete the install, two of the nozzels snapped, however a quick phone call the Jeremy and all is good, a couple more will be with me next week, that didn't stop me from pushing on though.
With the manifold drilled, hoses sized and injectors mounted  did a trial fit of the manifold,

The left hand injectors sit a little high, i may have to modify the mount

The next job was the pipework, the last time i did this with copper it was a total nightmare, this kit came with Polypipe, reinforced plastic type tube that made the whole job a lot easier


Once i got to the back i decided to mount the tank, this was pretty easy, the biggest issue is that the holes that i have drilled sit right in the chassis legs, this means that i cannot get to the back end of the bolt, the only solution is to get longer bolts


But the time i got this far it was too late to hook up the pipework to the tank, it was too late to start drilling the floor.

Tomorrow i will be doing the filler neck, connecting the pipework and doing the electrical, weather permitting  :y
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« Reply #10 on: 25 May 2008, 00:33:03 »

Suck eggs time here, I'm sure, but if you end up fitting the bolts through the chassis legs remember to put a spacer inside so you don't crush the chassis.

Looking good. Are those injectors the 3 ohm Valtek ones? We put them on Marie's car and they seem to be much quieter than the yellow 1 ohm ones.

Edited to add: Is cable tying the LPG pipe to the petrol lines acceptable to the LPGA? That's a much easier way of doing it. Had assumed the LPG line needed its' own clips. Not sure why. :-/

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« Reply #11 on: 25 May 2008, 00:42:00 »

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Suck eggs time here, I'm sure, but if you end up fitting the bolts through the chassis legs remember to put a spacer inside so you don't crush the chassis.

Looking good. Are those injectors the 3 ohm Valtek ones? We put them on Marie's car and they seem to be much quieter than the yellow 1 ohm ones.

Edited to add: Is cable tying the LPG pipe to the petrol lines acceptable to the LPGA? That's a much easier way of doing it. Had assumed the LPG line needed its' own clips. Not sure why. :-/

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Thanks for the reminder the biggest issue will be getting the spacer in the chassis  >:(

yes they are the 3ohm ones, Jeremy recommended these over the yellow ones

Hmmmmm, i was wondering about the cable ties, , the car is sill up in the air so i change that if required tomorrow
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« Reply #12 on: 25 May 2008, 00:49:04 »

Not saying the cable ties are a problem. I don't know. I just assumed you had to use the clips provided but it's worth finding out because it's a lot less holes in the car.

Is there any flexibility in where you drill the holes with those tanks? I thought the chassis member would be a bit of a pain. :-/

Does the frame on that tank come as far forwards as the towbar mounting points? Just wondering if I'm going to have issues with that too, as the towbar has a frame on the boot floor.

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« Reply #13 on: 25 May 2008, 00:59:58 »

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Not saying the cable ties are a problem. I don't know. I just assumed you had to use the clips provided but it's worth finding out because it's a lot less holes in the car.

Is there any flexibility in where you drill the holes with those tanks? I thought the chassis member would be a bit of a pain. :-/

Does the frame on that tank come as far forwards as the towbar mounting points? Just wondering if I'm going to have issues with that too, as the towbar has a frame on the boot floor.

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the frame is predrilled, there are 4 holes on each end , i understand these have to be used.

i have not had or seen a towbar set up on a miggy, i will have to pop over sometime and let you have a look
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« Reply #14 on: 25 May 2008, 09:31:55 »

I can confirm that cable ties will not comply with the LPGA COP II... I know this because when i was going to get my last car certified they told me I had to mount the pipes with proper clips!

It all looks good though... I'm interested in the tank mounting because I've got a tow bar too! You should be able to see the flat points in the boot floor where the tow bar mounts. With my last tank there was a choice of mounting points... 2 each end of the frame and 2 either side (under the tank) and I believe you can use either as long as it is secure... Might be worth checking the tank frame to see if you can make life easier for yourself!
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