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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #15 on: 31 May 2008, 08:05:35 »

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both keys are locked in the boot, the car is deadlocked, had rescue services try for 3 hours cant open it via door,boot release or manual boot release using long metal rods.
What do i do now??
thanks

How about this as an idea?

fathom out from a wiring diagram how to trigger the lock actuators on one of the doors.  Perhaps another member (sorry need to run out of the door) can help which cables need what power.  Then: carefully working in the gap between the door and the A or B pillar find a way of getting power to the right cable: should trigger the lock actuator and door opens.  would probably take a while to fashion tools to work in the door gap, cut into the plastic wiring loom trunk and to cut into the right cable BUT it may just work.  else take the weather strip from the top of one of the doors and try from above.  again you may be in luck - I'll check in my doors

EDIT: may just work on the A pillar/front door

Good luck

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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #16 on: 31 May 2008, 08:18:50 »

There is a method which worked on the old Cav's when deadlocked... I won't post it in the public area but I'll PM you... But you will need to replace a few parts afterwards so it may be cheaper to break a window!

Alternatively if you ring around the local locksmiths you may find one who can either cut a key on site or, if you have a flat, laser cut type key, use something called Jigglers. They are basically a series of 30 Skeleton keys, one of which should, hopefully, work. I actually have a set somewhere from my days doing breakdowns but not entirely sure where they are!
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #17 on: 31 May 2008, 08:27:48 »

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Take you registration doc to a vaushall dealer and get another key.  You should be able to get a bare key - without remote or imobiliser chip - its cheaper.  You use this to unlock the car.  Nice to know that you have a secure car isn't it.

This is probably the least painful way of getting in... You'll probably have to buy a car pass from the dealer, who should then be able to cut the bare key for you!!
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #18 on: 31 May 2008, 10:43:13 »

DONE IT

had to stick a prob down the door that sent power to the door that lifted the buttons.

trouble is now i cant use my drivers door handle its not working must of been from yesterday
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #19 on: 31 May 2008, 10:58:34 »

Sounds like the rod will have popped off.... Very easy to do when you're trying to break in. Whip the door card of and it'll be obvious once you're inside the door!
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #20 on: 31 May 2008, 13:17:21 »

best idea is to find one of the keys, if you dont know where they are, lock the car by hand and then smash the window, then your keys will turn up as if by magic somewhere you swore you'd looked

edit: just realised you said they're both in the boot!

I locked my only key in my first omega after it fell out of my top pocket without me realising, they had to hotwire the boot wiring, but it needs a good earth to do it
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #21 on: 31 May 2008, 13:30:00 »

I know you want to avoid breaking glass, but if you do is there not a manual boot opening switch on the dash board, as there is on my Facelift CDX, you can press to retrieve the keys (with the alarm ringing!)? :-?

Thats to add to all the advice you have already been given!

One things for sure it is a bugger :'( :'(, but like has already been said how did you deadlock the car with the keys ending up in the boot? :o

Hope all goes well for you whatever happens! :y
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #22 on: 31 May 2008, 13:37:32 »

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I know you want to avoid breaking glass, but if you do is there not a manual boot opening switch on the dash board, as there is on my Facelift CDX, you can press to retrieve the keys (with the alarm ringing!)? :-?

Thats to add to all the advice you have already been given!

One things for sure it is a bugger :'( :'(, but like has already been said how did you deadlock the car with the keys ending up in the boot? :o

Hope all goes well for you whatever happens! :y

Pre facelifts dont have this :(
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #23 on: 31 May 2008, 13:55:45 »

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I know you want to avoid breaking glass, but if you do is there not a manual boot opening switch on the dash board, as there is on my Facelift CDX, you can press to retrieve the keys (with the alarm ringing!)? :-?

Thats to add to all the advice you have already been given!

One things for sure it is a bugger :'( :'(, but like has already been said how did you deadlock the car with the keys ending up in the boot? :o

Hope all goes well for you whatever happens! :y

Pre facelifts dont have this :(

In that case, IF I remember correctly with my old 1996 Elite, is there not a key slot on the boot lid that can be picked / broken to gain access to the locked in keys?  :-/ :-/ If so that is far cheaper (?) than breaking a window. :-?
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #24 on: 31 May 2008, 15:30:10 »

how much is it for another key, i have no spare and i'll be up the creek without a paddle if i lose this one

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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #25 on: 31 May 2008, 16:46:57 »

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Sounds like the rod will have popped off.... Very easy to do when you're trying to break in. Whip the door card of and it'll be obvious once you're inside the door!

great i will go and have a look now
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #26 on: 31 May 2008, 16:47:40 »

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how much is it for another key, i have no spare and i'll be up the creek without a paddle if i lose this one

richie

If you just want a key to open the door most key cutters will be able to do it for relatively small money.
The thick end of a ton if you go to Vauxhall. I paid £28 for the blade bit from Vauhall a couple of years back SWBO's Astra but you then need the fob & a session with Tech II that Vx will charge you £30-40 for. Mine just cost me the blade. ::)
The Boy or Marks DTM each have a TechII though.
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #27 on: 31 May 2008, 16:53:06 »

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how much is it for another key, i have no spare and i'll be up the creek without a paddle if i lose this one

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If you just want a key to open the door most key cutters will be able to do it for relatively small money.
The thick end of a ton if you go to Vauxhall. I paid £28 for the blade bit from Vauhall a couple of years back SWBO's Astra but you then need the fob & a session with Tech II that Vx will charge you £30-40 for. Mine just cost me the blade. ::)
The Boy or Marks DTM each have a TechII though.

brill  :y :y

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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #28 on: 31 May 2008, 19:21:48 »

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Sounds like the rod will have popped off.... Very easy to do when you're trying to break in. Whip the door card of and it'll be obvious once you're inside the door!

trying to take off the door bits and i am stuck.

I have undone 5 screws but the top part of the door there are no screws but it is stuck (the bit with the door switch and the door handle)

is there a guide on here please.
31 march 2001 omega x reg, 3.0 elite saloon.

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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #29 on: 31 May 2008, 19:31:44 »

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how much is it for another key, i have no spare and i'll be up the creek without a paddle if i lose this one

richie
I sell blank blades (with transponder) for around £12. Usually costs about £2-£4 to get this mechanically cut.  This allows access to vehicle, and will start it if you get transponder programmed.
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