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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #30 on: 31 May 2008, 21:38:21 »

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Sounds like the rod will have popped off.... Very easy to do when you're trying to break in. Whip the door card of and it'll be obvious once you're inside the door!

trying to take off the door bits and i am stuck.

I have undone 5 screws but the top part of the door there are no screws but it is stuck (the bit with the door switch and the door handle)

is there a guide on here please.
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Sorry... Not been on today!!!

This is a guide http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1177492197

Another thing... After you've removed the plastic liner, be sure to re-fit it correctly and seal it!!
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #31 on: 31 May 2008, 23:14:25 »

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The handle on the inside of the door has a soft plastic section in he front edge of hte handle.  This should push off towards the frount of car - there is another screw behind this.  There is also a blanking plug conceiling another screw toward the top front corner of the door but it sould like you have got this one.

If the door pannel has spring clips along the top edge.  Should be able to release these by rocking the pannel from side to side while pushing up.

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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #32 on: 01 June 2008, 07:53:00 »

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The handle on the inside of the door has a soft plastic section in he front edge of hte handle.  This should push off towards the frount of car - there is another screw behind this.  There is also a blanking plug conceiling another screw toward the top front corner of the door but it sould like you have got this one.

If the door pannel has spring clips along the top edge.  Should be able to release these by rocking the pannel from side to side while pushing up.

Hope that helps

hi yeah there was 2 blanking plates on the left and top left got them, i will do the others stuff you mentioned, cheers
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #33 on: 02 June 2008, 13:27:55 »

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The handle on the inside of the door has a soft plastic section in he front edge of hte handle.  This should push off towards the frount of car - there is another screw behind this.  There is also a blanking plug conceiling another screw toward the top front corner of the door but it sould like you have got this one.

If the door pannel has spring clips along the top edge.  Should be able to release these by rocking the pannel from side to side while pushing up.

Hope that helps

argh my door doesnt look like that
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #35 on: 02 June 2008, 14:11:24 »

right got it off.
peeled back the membrane plasticy stuff now what am i looking for.

as i move the door handle i can see two black clips, the left one is moving the right one isnt, they have a spring connecting them to each other, on the end of the spring going to both left and right is a metal piece about 4mm long.

on the left side this metal piece is behind the plastic (the bit that is moving when i move the door handle) on the right plastic piece, the metal is in front of the plastic piece.

is the left one meant to have the spring in front (nearest me) as at the moment it is behind, or is the right one meant to be behind as at the moment it is in front.

hope that makes sense, or is there something else that has moved?
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #36 on: 02 June 2008, 15:12:19 »

Start by following the rods... I assume the inner handle is working so start by operating the one that works. Follow it to the rear edge of the door, where you'll be able to see the catch being operated. Then from there you should be able to trace a rod back to the outer handle. I expect you'll find it flapping about loose somewhere! Then it's just a case of working out where it goes and re attaching it!

 If you're still stuck then you'll have to get some pictures up for up to look at!
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #37 on: 02 June 2008, 15:34:15 »

hi cheers, yes the inside handle is working i can see two rods as i look at the door but they are both firm, i will take pictures later as surprise surprise its raining again.
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #38 on: 02 June 2008, 15:53:11 »

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hi cheers, yes the inside handle is working i can see two rods as i look at the door but they are both firm, i will take pictures later as surprise surprise its raining again.

Working from a distant memory,  ::) ::) there should be at least 3. One from lock button to door catch, one from inner handle to catch and one from outer handle to catch.

Check for rods either dangling loose or in the bottom of the door. It's not uncommon to dislodge them when trying to force entry!
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« Reply #39 on: 02 June 2008, 15:59:02 »

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hi cheers, yes the inside handle is working i can see two rods as i look at the door but they are both firm, i will take pictures later as surprise surprise its raining again.

Working from a distant memory,  ::) ::) there should be at least 3. One from lock button to door catch, one from inner handle to catch and one from outer handle to catch.

Check for rods either dangling loose or in the bottom of the door. It's not uncommon to dislodge them when trying to force entry!

just taken some quick pics here are the 2 plastic bits

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27282629@N02/2545381054/

here is the pic of the door with the membrane in the bottom half of the pic

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27282629@N02/2544557099/
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #40 on: 02 June 2008, 16:13:58 »

Unfortunately I'm using a mobile so I can't get a decent look at those pictures untill tonight. Hopefully someone else will be able to help before then but I'll have a look later!

I would expect the cause of your problem to be the connector between the outer handle and the catch... It may well be a very short rod which goes between the handle and a cam type connector which is attached to the door. I'm just guessing that it will have to push down on the cam type thing from above so will be attached to the top of the handle somewhere. That's where it was on the old cavaliers anyway!
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #41 on: 02 June 2008, 16:25:58 »

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Unfortunately I'm using a mobile so I can't get a decent look at those pictures untill tonight. Hopefully someone else will be able to help before then but I'll have a look later!

I would expect the cause of your problem to be the connector between the outer handle and the catch... It may well be a very short rod which goes between the handle and a cam type connector which is attached to the door. I'm just guessing that it will have to push down on the cam type thing from above so will be attached to the top of the handle somewhere. That's where it was on the old cavaliers anyway!

ok i will go out now and have a look, trouble is the catch is well hidden behind lots of metal on the door and its real hard to see.
btw what phone you using?
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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #42 on: 02 June 2008, 16:34:27 »

Just to help with the piccies ... I don't know owt about the problem ......





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Re: lost both keys,car is deadlocked, what do i do now
« Reply #43 on: 02 June 2008, 16:54:56 »

Using a Nokia N73. I can they the pictures reasonably well but they are a bit small!

As for all the metal blocking your view... I know the problem! I think if you follow the rod the 2 plastic clips are on along you should find the broken bit! You might benefit from trying to get the old camera and taking a picture along the door behind the metal.
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« Reply #44 on: 02 June 2008, 17:09:26 »

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Using a Nokia N73. I can they the pictures reasonably well but they are a bit small!

As for all the metal blocking your view... I know the problem! I think if you follow the rod the 2 plastic clips are on along you should find the broken bit! You might benefit from trying to get the old camera and taking a picture along the door behind the metal.

found it at the bottom of the door but it looks like its broken off rather than fallen off.

here is a pic of the item

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27282629@N02/2544721897/
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