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Tire allignment question
« on: 26 August 2008, 18:53:01 »

Hi guys,
I know this topic has been precviously touched on but - Having looked at previous threads I still cannot find the allignment data for my miggy.
Please let me know if anyone these details since i have just totalled two (michellin!£!) front tires by driving with incorrect tracking allignment - having now severe inside edge wear on both front tyres. The garage had alligned(tried to!) the car several months ago after replacing both suspension cradle arms. :'(
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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #1 on: 26 August 2008, 18:58:31 »

Think you mean the cambers mate
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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #2 on: 26 August 2008, 19:06:00 »

Ah!
Sorry about that.
What was actually replaced were the left and right lower suspension arms complete with ball joints. The problem with the tires is this i never monitored the tire wear from that time or else i would have picked up this problem sooner!

I am hoping that if i can give the tracking data to the garage that the new tires (!!£!!) will not be damaged like the last set.

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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #3 on: 26 August 2008, 19:10:11 »

I've been to WIM and seen the settings, 95% not the tracking. As LooKnee said, More likely to be the Camber setting.

flat surface, angle gauge and spirit level will give you ROUGH setting but it needs to be done with the proper tools to get it to perfect settings :y
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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #4 on: 26 August 2008, 19:14:43 »

Thank for clearing that up for me mate, so what you are saying is that the camber is NOT set when setting the tracking(?). Is this a job that i can guide my friendly mechanic on performing?
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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #5 on: 26 August 2008, 19:17:33 »

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Thank for clearing that up for me mate, so what you are saying is that the camber is NOT set when setting the tracking(?). Is this a job that i can guide my friendly mechanic on performing?


No and No......you need to seek somebody who has the specialist kit to set vehicle geometry.

That means Kwik Fit and the other sheds are out....
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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #6 on: 26 August 2008, 19:20:37 »

The problem is that as the suspension relaxes with age the "ideal" camber setting changes, so unless you take it to someone like Wheels In Motion who can accurately assess the state of the suspension it's very difficult to get a decent alignment job done. The limits on the computerised geometry machines are also very wide, meaning if they just set them "in the green" you'll be no better off.

I would suggest you get them set somewhere near the positive limit - i.e. around 1o10' - 1o20', as that's about where mine ended up - unless you can get down to WIM to get it properly set up.

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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #7 on: 27 August 2008, 00:15:17 »

Thanks guys, unfortunately for me 'Wheels in motion' is 4 1/2 hours drive from my location so i will will have to try another option.

If anyone knows a specialist in Yorkshire I would be most appreciatave. :y

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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #8 on: 27 August 2008, 00:35:05 »

maybe worth a call to wim anyway, might be able to recommend someone up there. Tony is an approachable chap, and will probably give you a good idea of what to look for in a geometesy set up.
You need someone who not only has the correct equipment, but knows the settings that work, as kevin says, the standard spec. is so wide as to be almost useless. Experience is all.
By the way, check your wishbones stearing idler and springs are all in good condition first. At a recent meet at wim 13 of 15 cars had shot wishbone bushes, so making set up pointless due to the massive amount of play. But get it right and you should be pleasantly suprised at the results.

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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #9 on: 27 August 2008, 09:30:15 »

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Thanks guys, unfortunately for me 'Wheels in motion' is 4 1/2 hours drive from my location so i will will have to try another option.

If anyone knows a specialist in Yorkshire I would be most appreciatave. :y

Thanks
As chrisgixer says, call WIM and speak to Tony Bones, or use their forum, to see if he can offer advice.

Saying that, members here have travelled from Scotland to get WIM to sort the car :o
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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #10 on: 27 August 2008, 09:39:08 »

He is well worth it!

I drove 3+ hours to get there

His tyre prices were also that competitive it saved the price of the petrol  :y

Been to local places before, left not really any better than when I went.

Not so with WIM, he KNOWS what he is doing  :y

I will be going again before long in the other car

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Re: Tire allignment question
« Reply #11 on: 27 August 2008, 21:24:33 »

Thanks guys - I will make the call tomorrow. :y
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