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mantahatch

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Random cutting out at idle
« on: 08 September 2008, 10:19:07 »
Hi All
Mum's car (1999 2.5 mini facelift) cuts out at idle occasionally. It is a newish engine only done less than 10,000 miles, I have cleaned all the breathers  and the EGR valve and replaced the idle control valve.
Did fault codes yesterday and came up with:
13 temparature sensor
15 i think oxygen sensor
19 crank sensor

As it was getting dark only had time to replace crank sensor. I have a spare temparature sensor, but need to wait till weekend to fit it.

The car idles perfectly for anything from 5 minutes to one week.
It gives no warning, just cuts dead. resatrts instantly.

Any thoughts please.

Mike
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #1 on: 08 September 2008, 10:20:28 »
My money would be on the crank sensor ...  :y :y :y
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #2 on: 08 September 2008, 10:30:45 »
Does it only do this when the ECC is off? I had the same problem...
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #3 on: 08 September 2008, 10:34:42 »
Had this on my V6 - usually cut out when going into roundabout!!

Only code was a 19.  Replaced crank sensor - problem less but still happened.  Cleaned ICV - cured.  May be worth you checking ICV as this doesn't cost (apart from a little time) - or may be a dodgy ICV?

A code 19 means crank sensor is dodgy & will let you down.
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #4 on: 08 September 2008, 10:36:14 »
Does it ever stall when the car is in motion?
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #5 on: 08 September 2008, 11:14:18 »
Hi all
Thanks for the replies, the car never stalls whilst in motion, climate control makes no difference at all,
Is ICV idle control valve ? if so new one fitted very recently.

Regards

Mike
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #6 on: 08 September 2008, 11:15:44 »
Does it stutter then stall or is it a nice clean stall?
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #7 on: 08 September 2008, 11:46:31 »
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Does it stutter then stall or is it a nice clean stall?


It is very clean stall, just like turning off the engine. No stutter at all.

Mike
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #8 on: 08 September 2008, 11:52:26 »
I'd put my money on the crank sensor... Mine was exactly the same!!!

It's not unheard of for it to throw up other codes too
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #9 on: 08 September 2008, 11:52:52 »
Any problems starting from cold (hesitation etc?)
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #10 on: 08 September 2008, 11:55:41 »
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Any problems starting from cold (hesitation etc?)

No starts perfectly, 99% of the time, although she did say about a month ago it would not start one morning, left it for 5 minutes and it fired up straight away, she has only just told me this !!! Mothers.

Mike
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #11 on: 08 September 2008, 12:00:24 »
Crank sensor..
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #12 on: 08 September 2008, 12:29:44 »
Sounds like what mine was doing about a couple of years ago... New sensor sorted it!

Again, mine is doing the same - is it normal for crank sensors to have a two year life span?
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #13 on: 08 September 2008, 14:37:31 »
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Sounds like what mine was doing about a couple of years ago... New sensor sorted it!

Again, mine is doing the same - is it normal for crank sensors to have a two year life span?

new parts generally dont have the same life time as the first original on the car..possibly..
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Re: Random cutting out at idle
« Reply #14 on: 08 September 2008, 14:39:12 »
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new parts generally dont have the same life time as the first original on the car..possibly..

Not sure how, gen GM part - same as one fitted in the factory?
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