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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #15 on: 24 August 2008, 17:23:46 »

Thanks for the replies. It is not firing on all cylinders on tickover, but OK above 900 revs, that is the vibration due to erratic idling. As for filling the fuel filter, never heard of that, but will try. Actually the car was running fine until I used Diesel Magic, put one bottle in the tank just to keep the system clean. Not used Forte before, I will have a go with something. If I do need injectors, is the scrappy an option?
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #16 on: 24 August 2008, 17:27:30 »

Dieseal Magic in tank doesn't really do much, as its too watered down.  Hence straight in the fuel filter (which you may as well replace at same time)
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #17 on: 24 August 2008, 19:05:12 »

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Thanks for the replies. It is not firing on all cylinders on tickover, but OK above 900 revs, that is the vibration due to erratic idling. As for filling the fuel filter, never heard of that, but will try. Actually the car was running fine until I used Diesel Magic, put one bottle in the tank just to keep the system clean. Not used Forte before, I will have a go with something. If I do need injectors, is the scrappy an option?
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Before you go any further, take The Boy's, (and mine), advice - change the fuel filter.
Fill it with Forte Advanced Formula Diesel Treatment, a yellow-topped bottle. DO NOT USE their Specialist Injector Cleaner, (which also has a yellow top).

However, before doing this, try (difficult, but possible), tightening the filter when erratic idling occurs. I wouldn't mind betting that it'll idle perfectly thereafter.
Send me a 'PM' with your number this evening and I'll try talking you thro' it if you wish.

Regarding injectors - reconditioned ones are the only option in my opinion. Don't go down this road just yet .... 1
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #18 on: 24 August 2008, 22:07:08 »

May be worth checking the spill pipes between the injectors too!
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #19 on: 24 August 2008, 22:29:12 »

Hi Gents, thanks for the replies. OK The Boy says renew filter, will do, and will first fill with Sethsmates Forte Advanced Formula Diesel Treatment. I don't actually know where the filter is yet. Same place as Petrol one? I have erratic idling all the time on tickover, but will try tightening the filter. Am hoping I don't need to replace injectors. Thanks all.
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #20 on: 24 August 2008, 22:32:08 »

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May be worth checking the spill pipes between the injectors too!

Hi Lazydocker, To be honest i don't actually know what there are.
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #21 on: 24 August 2008, 22:38:06 »

They link between the injectors and were a common thing to go on all my other diesels! TBH you should be able to smell diesel under the bonnet if they're leaking!
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #22 on: 24 August 2008, 22:44:02 »

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They link between the injectors and were a common thing to go on all my other diesels! TBH you should be able to smell diesel under the bonnet if they're leaking!

Right, thanks, will take a look in the morning.  :y
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #23 on: 25 August 2008, 11:13:07 »

OK, I have been out & bought a new diesel filter, but can't get hold of any Forte advanced formula Diesel treatment, I looked on 'tinternet & apparently it's for the trade only. I will have to opt for another make, or see if I can get it on the likes of ebay. The engine is missing on tickover, but seems fine when over about 900 RPM. I hope i am not doing cats damage if unburned Diesel is going into the exhaust.
Hoping to get something sorted soon, but am working for next two days. I do appreciaste the help given on this site.
Will keep you all informed.
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #24 on: 25 August 2008, 11:44:36 »

diesel magic is sold in any halfords store buddy!!!! :y

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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #25 on: 25 August 2008, 12:02:03 »

Appreciate Diesel Magic can be found everywhere, I have used it before, in the tank, but I would prefer the Forte stuff if I can get some. On the other hand, I could fill the filter with Diesel Magic this afternoon, Hmmm, tempting.
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #26 on: 25 August 2008, 12:02:15 »

Filter, if you haven't found it yet, is bolted to osf suspension turrent.
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #27 on: 25 August 2008, 12:13:05 »

Sorry, found the filter, meant to post the info. Do you change filters without worrying about air getting in the system? Thanks TheBoy.
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #28 on: 25 August 2008, 14:13:30 »

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Sorry, found the filter, meant to post the info. Do you change filters without worrying about air getting in the system? Thanks TheBoy.
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Don't worry too much about air getting in - its usually self bleeding.  Just ensure the fuel filter is brimmed with Diesel Magic (and diesel if you need to top up more).
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Re: Turbo Diesel bad starting - Help!
« Reply #29 on: 27 August 2008, 21:41:36 »

Changed fuel filter, filled it with Redex first, (could not get hold of Forte) No air problems, thanks TheBoy, No difference, I now suspect injectors are fine and the problem is something else.
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