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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #15 on: 20 October 2008, 09:57:36 »
Great solution  - as I've also got a couple of bikes to store, it's probably more cost effective to buy a space dehumidifier for the garage.
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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #16 on: 20 October 2008, 10:21:11 »
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Great solution  - as I've also got a couple of bikes to store, it's probably more cost effective to buy a space dehumidifier for the garage.

The problem with dehumidifying a garage is that, by necessity, they are well ventilated. This means the dehumidifier will just run constantly when it's damp. It'll be a good source of water for topping up your battery, but the leccy bill could get high. If you reduce the ventilation you need to insulate and heat or dehumidify at all times or you will have damp problems.

The real issue arises when you have a cold spell where everything cools down, followed by a warmer, more humid spell. A car has a lot of thermal inertia so it remains cold for some time after the weather has warmed, and attracts condensation. The best soultion is to gently heat or dehumidify the space only when the weather has changed in such a way. A thermostat based on the differential between indoor and outdoor temperature would probably do it. Not sure if such a thing is available though.

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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #17 on: 20 October 2008, 14:22:31 »
Hmm - some back of envelope calcs suggest that my 2kW garage heater could raise the temp. of the garage from 15C to 20C and dehumidify from 85% (today in Ireland) to 60% in 1.5 hours. This would cost me about £70/year in electricity if I ran it every night for 1.5 hours for 7 (winter) months a year. The plastic enclosure is a pretty salty £400 - I'm only gone for one year. I think the conclusion here is to keep it quite well sealed, with a little ventilation, and heat it periodically. :y
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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #18 on: 20 October 2008, 14:31:21 »
The point is that you don't have to heat it every night. It doesn't matter how cold things get, just that, when the conditions for condensation occur, you give it a bit of heat / dehumidifier.

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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #19 on: 20 October 2008, 14:45:07 »
Oil in upper cylinders may be an idea as well
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« Reply #20 on: 20 October 2008, 14:53:28 »
Yes - I take your point, but living in Ireland, the humidity in the winter months is usually 95-99% i.e. there is always a film of moisture on any cold metal surface. It kills anything subject to corrosion as I found out to my cost when my old Norton was ravaged by wintering in a cold, damp shed one year.
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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #21 on: 20 October 2008, 15:34:53 »
This Kevin Wood bloke, how does he know all these things...?  :o


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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #22 on: 20 October 2008, 15:40:14 »
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This Kevin Wood bloke, how does he know all these things...?  :o


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'Cos he am cleverer than wot I is  ...  :y :y :y

he's also a really nice guy as well ....  :)
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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #23 on: 20 October 2008, 15:44:35 »
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This Kevin Wood bloke, how does he know all these things...?  :o


 ;D

'Cos he am cleverer than wot I is  ...  :y :y :y

he's also a really nice guy as well ....  :)


Hmmm.... is there a 'wood conspiracy at OOF?  :o
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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #24 on: 20 October 2008, 16:45:38 »
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This Kevin Wood bloke, how does he know all these things...?  :o


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.. cos he used to have a seriously damp garage containing his pride and joy, and all his tools, and tried most things to sort it.  ;)

Had I not moved house I was going to build a thermostat that maintained inside temperature a degree or two above outside temperature if, and only if, the humidity was above a certain level. Probably would have been overkill but I reckon it would have worked, and not cost a fortune to run.

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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #25 on: 20 October 2008, 19:02:55 »
I put my 98 mv6 in nice dry barn april o5 to sept 07.Fresh oil and filter,new antifreeze,new brake fluid,44psi in tyres,good wash and wax,20 mile hard drive to really get some heat in the brakes exhaust etc and then parked up hot,handbrake off.Battery removed,never restarted.
28 mts later,some fresh petrol,refit battery,started first time,passed mot and did 4500 miles all over europe in 6 weeks.............

worked for me
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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #26 on: 20 October 2008, 23:43:36 »
Good to hear it worked out for you - I'll try it. Thanks.
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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #27 on: 21 October 2008, 07:26:10 »
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This Kevin Wood bloke, how does he know all these things...?  :o


 ;D

'Cos he am cleverer than wot I is  ...  :y :y :y

he's also a really nice guy as well ....  :)


Hmmm.... is there a 'wood conspiracy at OOF?  :o

that can be taken so many different ways.................. ::) ::)  whatever floats your boat  :P

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Long term storage
« Reply #28 on: 22 October 2008, 18:05:42 »
I've heard that auto boxes tend to sieze unless completly filled with auto trans fluid

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