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[fatboyfat]

When it stops raining,sometime in the near future,i want to get out and do an oil/filter change(amongst a billion other things to do).Has anybody any experience of ZX1,friction eliminator,saw it advertised recently and looked good.But i don't want to spend £20+ on a waste of time.Also anyone know if you could use it in autobox and rear diff.thanks

[Auto Addict]

Use the proper oils, and you shouldn't need aditives.

[achoo81]

I tried that stuff once didn't seem to make a bit of difference to the car, if you want to look after your miggie engine there is nothing like regular oil & filter changes also I wouldn't put it in the gearbox or axle as it might react with the oil in them.

[unlucky alf]

from what ive read on here in the past additives are not favoured by most, & lets face it on these adverts they can make a dog turd sound appealing , as for the auto box & diff you cant beat the normal oil changes,  perhaps someone will come on here & tell you for sure.

[fatboyfat]

what your saying basically is that the manufacturers know what they are on about and using the correct oils and parts and changing them at correct intervals is quite sufficient to keep your car in good order.Thinking about it,on the ad they showed how you could run the engine with no oil and it works fine,but i aint never going to run with no oil so it does seem pointless,thanks for getting me to think.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

what your saying basically is that the manufacturers know what they are on about and using the correct oils and parts and changing them at correct intervals is quite sufficient to keep your car in good order.Thinking about it,on the ad they showed how you could run the engine with no oil and it works fine,but i aint never going to run with no oil so it does seem pointless,thanks for getting me to think.

Yep, ever since I started to drive additives have been promoted by some as the be all of good motoring and engine long life.

Never used it and never will, relying totally on good quality oils and frequent changes. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

To my knowledge no car engine has avoided the breakers because additives have been used!

[Big_Roger]

Hi,
You would do a lot of damage by putting anti friction additives in an auto gearbox.  There are clutches and brake bands in there that are reliant on good friction to work properly.

Roger

[fatboyfat]

Hi,
You would do a lot of damage by putting anti friction additives in an auto gearbox.  There are clutches and brake bands in there that are reliant on good friction to work properly.

Roger

D'oh like i said earlier thanks for making me think

[Markjay]

Engine oil: Vx own-brand 10W40 semi-synth is best, NO additives.
Works a treat for the car...

Autobox: Any ATF Dexron III (does not have to be Vx), NO additives.


Rear Diff: Special Vx fluid, NO additives (other than the Vx additive if LSD).

[feeutfo]

if it worked claimed,or was of any use at all over current lubricants, the manufacturers would be using it. Load of bollux. Dont think its designed for auto boxs anyway.

[sev]

zx1 is very good for old engines who's history you don't know, but unfortunately makes working on the internals a complete nightmare!

If you don't want to spend the 20quid, find someone with a tradecard and buy a huge drum of oil, and do a change every month - that should flush the engine nicely.

Don't put friction inhibiters in gearboxes as the guys have said ther are a lot of components that rely on friction to do their job.

There was an old trick we used to use to clean out the rally gearboxes and diffs but you'd have to be a brave man to try it   (but it worked for us!)

Regular oil changes - of it's full of crap, thrice regular!

I put zx1 in my mig when I bought her, but I knew that the engine hadn't had a service in five years! - after that, I filled with new oil, and last week when I did my shocks, I renewed the oil again.  In feb, i'll do it again until i'm satisfied that any stubborn crap is out of the engine.

Also the best and most effective fuel additive to clean your system?
Shell Optimax - at a few pence a litre more expensive, you'd be daft to give redex your money on aggressive detergents, which actually do work, but at least Optimax cleans away gradually.

I fill my tank with it now all the time, and I do notice that the engine is a lot smoother for it.

Hope this helps.  

[Pitchfork]

Would adding this stuff to a Traktor help to remove the undoubtedly large deposits of crap that have accumulated in 143K miles
I seem to recall TB stating that that part of the cooling regime is oil-jets that can clog up

[sev]

If it's all clogged you'd be better off just doing regular oil changes, perhaps a good flushing oil would benefit initially, and then rechange after a month or two.

It's not just diesels that suffer from oil jet clogging, all engines do if not kept in a state of clean lube.

If you're not on TC, it might be worth just buying a flushing oil, and some cheap as chips oil, going for a nice high rev blast, and then coming back changing it and doing the same again.

If your engine's been properly looked after, you shouldn't need any friction inhibitors or additives.  I've see a merc tractor engine that was religiously serviced since new by a MB technician who is a good friend of mine and it has over 500k on the clock - and it's never been apart once.  Tells you something.

[fatboyfat]

Cheers for replies,i tell everyone on jobs not to skimp on maintainance of their property and i guess its the same with cars.The only reason it crossed my mind was as a shortcut to helping engine when i am unsure of how well its been serviced.will take on board what you have saidthanks.

[Kevin Wood]

If you suspect an engine has been neglected a couple of oil changes perhaps 1,000 miles apart is the best way to clean out any accumulated sludge. Make sure the breathers are clear too.

Kevin