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oh buggerit
« on: 09 November 2008, 01:47:11 »
Driving home from a birthday Dinner (mine....    ) this evening, about an hour ago....  the orange engine management light comes on, the power dies, then the oil and brake light (standard ignition on, engine not running pair) join it....  

no recent previous signs of trouble, no rough running, no nothing.....  

i managed to roll off the A34 , down to the botley road and into a parking space...  

no warnings active in the MID ....   not in a position to do a paperclip test right now...having had to call a cab to get the mrs home as well.....


just the birthday present i wanted...  a dead miggy.
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #1 on: 09 November 2008, 08:14:04 »
sounds like the good old crank sensor scenario.  probably start again when you get back there
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #2 on: 09 November 2008, 10:00:10 »
Guessing our old friend the crank sensor.  If its the plastic type - suspect it is - and you need to fix it quick, I have a spare in the garage (like all sensible V6 owners, I keep a new one handy in the garage)


Only because I've been there, done that ;D
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #3 on: 09 November 2008, 10:00:32 »
Oh, and Happy Birthday MaxV6
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #4 on: 09 November 2008, 10:02:17 »
Just described your symptoms to Mrs TheBoy, she reckons, without prompting, crank sensor as well ;D
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #5 on: 09 November 2008, 10:32:17 »
Happy Birthday.

Sure it will be fine once you swap out the crank sensor. Chin up.
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #6 on: 09 November 2008, 10:58:25 »
Happy birthday  :y :y :y

[size=8]sounds like a crank sensor ::) (only coz Mrs TheBoy said)[/size]
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« Reply #7 on: 09 November 2008, 11:08:24 »
Happy Birthday :y

And I'll link to my explanation to save redoing it!

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1226096942
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« Reply #8 on: 09 November 2008, 11:23:40 »
bit worrying they can just cut out mid drive and leave you with no power stearing and breaks. I think ill just change mine now and be done with it. Dont fancy that going when im playing. Could be a disaster.

So, what happens is, due to production line convenience, the cranks sensor wire is routed close to the exhaust? and heat and sometimes oil can bugger the wires and cause an intermitent or in this case sudden failure? My thinking is i change it now and route the cable more safely, thereby lessening the chances of a failure.

In 6 months of ownership i have had 3 instances of cranking on the key and not fireing and am becaming aware of an intermitently very slightly rough idle, although Kevin Wood says his tickover is the same.

 Is the re routeing likely to stop a failure?
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« Reply #9 on: 09 November 2008, 11:41:12 »
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bit worrying they can just cut out mid drive and leave you with no power stearing and breaks. I think ill just change mine now and be done with it. Dont fancy that going when im playing. Could be a disaster.

So, what happens is, due to production line convenience, the cranks sensor wire is routed close to the exhaust? and heat and sometimes oil can bugger the wires and cause an intermitent or in this case sudden failure? My thinking is i change it now and route the cable more safely, thereby lessening the chances of a failure.

In 6 months of ownership i have had 3 instances of cranking on the key and not fireing and am becaming aware of an intermitently very slightly rough idle, although Kevin Wood says his tickover is the same.

 Is the re routeing likely to stop a failure?
Like all v6 owners, you should carry a spare ;)

Don't worry about PAS or servo assistance - lacking PAS just needs a bit of man handling, and the brake assistance, seems to be enough vac to slow her up.

I've had the crank sensor go 3 times (same incident, just get getting her going again for a few miles) at 90mph on the French tolls, each time I have been able to pull up gently and safely into their emergency areas (advantage of doing 90 - there is an emergency area every mile or so).
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #10 on: 09 November 2008, 11:43:32 »
As to preventative measures, 2.5/3.0l owners should paperclip as part of weekly/fornightly fluid/tyre check, and look out for code 19.  2.6/3.2 should pedal trick as part of fluid/tyre check, looking out for code 0335.
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« Reply #11 on: 09 November 2008, 14:37:04 »
To be honest, they are quite manouverable and stoppable without engien running.....they will stop in a similar distance and steering is certiably heavier but by no means terrible
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #12 on: 09 November 2008, 18:20:23 »
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To be honest, they are quite manouverable and stoppable without engien running.....they will stop in a similar distance and steering is certiably heavier but by no means terrible

We dont all have your upper body strength, why do you think I always drive the towcar and have you in the towed one?  ;)
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #13 on: 09 November 2008, 18:49:29 »
lol....  thanks chaps....  you're all having he same thought i did.....  


sadly james appears to have chosen this moment to be on holiday (no doubt  well deserved i might add) so i'll have to pay the local muppet garage to recover the vehicle.......     and do the fix.....    i'm in no position , time wise, or spine wise (neck is acting up at the Moment, probably due to over work....   ) to tackle it, although i know it's straight forward......


(yes i'd have had to pay James, but it feels a LOT better paying him , forum member and mate that he is, than the garage.....  )


  
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Re: oh buggerit
« Reply #14 on: 09 November 2008, 19:03:16 »
it MAY still run! Try and get back there and start it.

If you can get to Bicester i might be able to help
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