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Cam Belt - why me?
« on: 17 October 2008, 19:02:09 »

Having followed closely the need to be vigilant on cam belt change I took my V6 3.2 elite to VX for cam belt change today - picked it up at about 4pm by 4.15pm on dual carriageway belt jumped.

Pulled over but at 60 mph I assume it will be big damage - VX came to pick me up and I just gave them keys and left it with them. Not a lot you can say. Will sort out hire car stuff with them next week when my son needs Omega.

Shame becuase it passed its MOT with no expense and even tyres with 20000 miles on them are only half worn.

VX will have to assess if it is technician error or part failure.

I am off to Cornwall in 20 mins for a week - lucky we have the Signum.
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #1 on: 17 October 2008, 19:03:49 »

If Vx supplied parts and fitted any damage is their problem and they should rectify to your satisfaction!!
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« Reply #2 on: 17 October 2008, 19:05:52 »

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If Vx supplied parts and fitted any damage is their problem and they should rectify to your satisfaction!!


Indeed, even if it means a new engine!! :D :D :y
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #3 on: 17 October 2008, 19:10:07 »

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VX will have to assess if it is technician error or part failure.

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It could be either but neither is your concern! Don't let them fob you off. When they've 'accessed' your car you should end up with a fully running car ... as it was when you drove in!
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #4 on: 17 October 2008, 19:13:11 »

Thanks - yes they have made that clear that I have no cost in this - it was just not quite the end to the day I was expecting - I cannot get uptight about it as I now have a 4 hour drive or so and will sort out when I get back.

They claim this is first V6 cam to have failed and it was one of their senior guys who fitted it first thing this morning - car went on same site for MOT later and so would have to be run for emissions test. It ran ok for a few mins out of garage and then engine light came on - rattling started and I just pulled over.
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #5 on: 17 October 2008, 20:11:01 »

ouch! it may be a pain in the arse to happen but it means alot of new parts in the top end of your engine which can only be a good thing!
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« Reply #6 on: 17 October 2008, 20:47:33 »

ah sandhurst, Roger Buden territory, very sorry to hear about your lovely car i would be very upset if that happened to me. Dealer or diy. As said, down to them. Might get a new motor? I will save my
****ing dealers rant for another time. You've had enough agro.
 Its easy to leave a guide wheel undone i guess but, as i found out only last weekend, there is only one adjustable guide wheel on a 3.2, the other is a not adjustable. So fairly poor from the mech.
Very best of luck with your car, i hope it turns out well for you. To be honest i dont see how they can get out of it tbh. Will be interesting to see what they do. Chris.
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #7 on: 18 October 2008, 10:01:15 »

Thanks all - finally got to Cornwall destination at 2am - after being given some duff directions by a local as to the house we had rented.Still here now in Mawnan Smith/Penwarne area - for Cornwall, SAT NAV can only put you in the general area - private roads and deep foliage more challenging.

Waiting for VX to call!!
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #8 on: 18 October 2008, 10:15:46 »

this happend to my mv6 at its 80k belt change belt broke 3 miles down the road however interchape wouldnt admit liability so the previous owner (BT FLEET) commenced legal action againt interchape for a replacement engine vx charge £ 2970 for a v6 upper rebuild still got the invoice here
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #9 on: 18 October 2008, 20:23:04 »

VX dealer advises snapped bolt on tensioner causing tensioner to move - bolts supplied with kit therefore they think it is VX warranty issue. VX have advised dealer to refit belt and see what happens but I think we all know that the damage has been done. Nothing I can do now til tuesday
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #10 on: 18 October 2008, 20:36:07 »

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Just to make sure that all 24 valves are bent & their guides are fubared!  :-?  :-?  :-?
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« Reply #11 on: 18 October 2008, 21:25:19 »

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Thanks all - finally got to Cornwall destination at 2am - after being given some duff directions by a local as to the house we had rented.Still here now in Mawnan Smith/Penwarne area - for Cornwall, SAT NAV can only put you in the general area - private roads and deep foliage more challenging.

Waiting for VX to call!!


Bloody hell that is an area I know very well!

Are you on the the main Mawnan Argal road or on a side road

Make sure you visit Roskillys - VERY nice.

Brilliant beach about a mile from you.

Don't annoy any farmers, if they are in John Deere tractors they are related, I have relations working on a farm just north of Mawnan Smith, and live there, the pictures of me reversing with van are there, the beach picture is that beach.

Oh and my Great Grandad and Great Great Grandad (mums side) were head gardeners at Glendurgan gardens near Mawnan
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #12 on: 18 October 2008, 21:26:24 »

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VX dealer advises snapped bolt on tensioner causing tensioner to move - bolts supplied with kit therefore they think it is VX warranty issue. VX have advised dealer to refit belt and see what happens but I think we all know that the damage has been done. Nothing I can do now til tuesday


No bolt on the tensioner, just a nut on a stud.....bet the handfisted bugger didn;t use a torque wrench to 20Nm on it!
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #13 on: 18 October 2008, 21:44:02 »

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VX dealer advises snapped bolt on tensioner causing tensioner to move - bolts supplied with kit therefore they think it is VX warranty issue. VX have advised dealer to refit belt and see what happens but I think we all know that the damage has been done. Nothing I can do now til tuesday


No bolt on the tensioner, just a nut on a stud.....bet the handfisted bugger didn;t use a torque wrench to 20Nm on it!

You think it may have been overtightened, and maybe thread stripped?
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Re: Cam Belt - why me?
« Reply #14 on: 18 October 2008, 21:46:52 »

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VX dealer advises snapped bolt on tensioner causing tensioner to move - bolts supplied with kit therefore they think it is VX warranty issue. VX have advised dealer to refit belt and see what happens but I think we all know that the damage has been done. Nothing I can do now til tuesday

No bolt on the tensioner, just a nut on a stud.....bet the handfisted bugger didn;t use a torque wrench to 20Nm on it!

You think it may have been overtightened, and maybe thread stripped?

Or damaged.....if the thread on the stud had been stretched then it would be weak and could shear at ony moment.....and most likely once everything had got nicely stinking hot, expanded adn been revved a bit.

Thing is, its rare you see mechanics using torque wrenches!

Either way, Vx will examine that stud and if it was over tightened then they will be able to tell by looking at the fracture and state of the nut etc!

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