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Re: Steering Diagnostic Please...
« Reply #30 on: 07 October 2008, 12:03:10 »

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The Vx Tech said the Tech2 does not cover the diagnostic of Servotronic on the 1997. I used my Vauxhall Diagnostic Scanner (bought from UK ODB) to check, Servotronic came back as no fault codes.

The receipt say that the Vx Tech had to refer to TIS to diagnose and just says tech1

The problem is resolved for sure. I pretty much done everything - what could it have been outside of the what they *fixed*?

This is what I checked/replaced
Full Geometry Setup
New wishbones
New droplinks
New tie rods
New front/rear suspension (inc. suspension bearings/stops/seals etc)
New steering idler arm
Checked over all rear suspension
Checked ball joints
Checked tyre pressures / wear pattern
Checked PS leaks/fluid
Removed excess play from the steering box
Everything done to Vx spec torque

You can see why I lost the will.... Is there any programming that can be done to 'calibrate' the servotronic?

I will check tonight.

What I can say is that there is a code index that you programme them with based on model year and a code on the steering box......would love to know what the new and old one was/is set to.

99% sure that Tech II can work on all version of servotronic to....as its not changed since it was introduced (will check this also this PM).
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Re: Steering Diagnostic Please...
« Reply #31 on: 07 October 2008, 12:06:43 »

Awesome, appreciate it! Just wish I lived closer to you guys...
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« Reply #32 on: 07 October 2008, 20:40:26 »

Right

Did a few tests

The servotronic has not changed throughout production (checked with a relay out of a 1995 car that I had) but, you have to set the model year to 1997 on Tech 2.

There are 6 settings, 3 for pre 2000 and 3 for 2000 onwards.

And thats about it!

So, set the car to max assist (code 011 for a 2000 car)....and its to assisted.....all over the place.

Set car back to min assist (code 009 for a 2000 car which is that standard setting) much better......and not all over the place any more
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« Reply #33 on: 07 October 2008, 20:46:42 »

Cheers mate...

So whats your verdict? They replaced a faulty relay and programmed it correctly or they just reprogrammed the existing relay?

I presume these dont fail often (no info on the web about it!)
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« Reply #34 on: 07 October 2008, 20:48:07 »

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Cheers mate...

So whats your verdict? They replaced a faulty relay and programmed it correctly or they just reprogrammed the existing relay?

I presume these dont fail often (no info on the web about it!)


Never seen one fail....spoke to my contact also......and he rang 4 other dealers to.....and none of them (5 in total) have ever sold one according to thier records.....

I reacon (hope) they replaced the relay.....but its now programmed correctly!
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« Reply #35 on: 07 October 2008, 20:50:14 »

Awesome, thanks for your help - good thing to know!
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Re: Steering Diagnostic Please...
« Reply #36 on: 08 October 2008, 08:37:27 »

Drove to work this morning with mine set to max assits....and it bloody awful.

Reset it for the journey home before getting out of the car.
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« Reply #37 on: 08 October 2008, 09:11:09 »

Hi Mark,

Can you define awful? Mine was just wandering all over, needing constant adjustment, front was unable to track correctly and felt like the steering wheel and wheels were not attached correctly....

Is this the same as you experienced?

Thanks for helping out with!
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« Reply #38 on: 09 October 2008, 09:44:14 »

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Hi Mark,

Can you define awful? Mine was just wandering all over, needing constant adjustment, front was unable to track correctly and felt like the steering wheel and wheels were not attached correctly....

Is this the same as you experienced?

Thanks for helping out with!

Exactly that....terrible when cruising at motorway speeds.....it was all over the shop!
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Re: Steering Diagnostic Please...
« Reply #39 on: 09 October 2008, 09:54:17 »

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The Vx Tech said the Tech2 does not cover the diagnostic of Servotronic on the 1997. I used my Vauxhall Diagnostic Scanner (bought from UK ODB) to check, Servotronic came back as no fault codes.

The receipt say that the Vx Tech had to refer to TIS to diagnose and just says tech1

The problem is resolved for sure. I pretty much done everything - what could it have been outside of the what they *fixed*?

This is what I checked/replaced
Full Geometry Setup
New wishbones
New droplinks
New tie rods
New front/rear suspension (inc. suspension bearings/stops/seals etc)
New steering idler arm
Checked over all rear suspension
Checked ball joints
Checked tyre pressures / wear pattern
Checked PS leaks/fluid
Removed excess play from the steering box
Everything done to Vx spec torque

You can see why I lost the will.... Is there any programming that can be done to 'calibrate' the servotronic?

I will check tonight.

What I can say is that there is a code index that you programme them with based on model year and a code on the steering box......would love to know what the new and old one was/is set to.

99% sure that Tech II can work on all version of servotronic to....as its not changed since it was introduced (will check this also this PM).
Tech2 can read all systems on all Omegas except:

IR locking/immobiliser
Pre 1997 2.0l engine ECUs
U25DT tractor engine ECUs (ie, non maf ones)

All of which require Mr Omegatoy to turn up with his Tech1.
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Re: Steering Diagnostic Please...
« Reply #40 on: 09 October 2008, 09:55:09 »

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Hi Mark,

Can you define awful? Mine was just wandering all over, needing constant adjustment, front was unable to track correctly and felt like the steering wheel and wheels were not attached correctly....

Is this the same as you experienced?

Thanks for helping out with!

Exactly that....terrible when cruising at motorway speeds.....it was all over the shop!
Hmmm, think my MV6 is set for mid setting....  ....I wonder....    :-/
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« Reply #41 on: 10 October 2008, 09:51:11 »

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Exactly that....terrible when cruising at motorway speeds.....it was all over the shop!

Awesome! Good to hear... I spoke to Vauxhall, they said the module would not communicate with tech2 so they swapped it out with a new module and reprogrammed, job done!

Handling is spot on now so despite having to spend a packet I'm happy
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Re: Steering Diagnostic Please...
« Reply #42 on: 10 October 2008, 09:53:41 »

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..... so despite having to spend a packet I'm happy

Some times it's best to just ignore the outlay if you're otherwise happy with the reuslt.  :y
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Re: Steering Diagnostic Please...
« Reply #43 on: 10 October 2008, 10:03:01 »

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Exactly that....terrible when cruising at motorway speeds.....it was all over the shop!

Awesome! Good to hear... I spoke to Vauxhall, they said the module would not communicate with tech2 so they swapped it out with a new module and reprogrammed, job done!

Handling is spot on now so despite having to spend a packet I'm happy

Really....so its Tech2 they used this time and not Tech1.....Should only have taken about 15 mins to diag that one!
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Re: Steering Diagnostic Please...
« Reply #44 on: 10 October 2008, 10:12:47 »

Here is a pic of the little bugger by the way.....I had one in the garage.

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