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parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« on: 11 February 2009, 11:57:01 »

i dont recognise his voice so i think hes new, and says self levelling is an option on the mv6. Hes quoting the same part number/ rear shock for elite and mv6, is this correct?

If so i can fit mv6 springs all round and away we go,
mv6 suspension AND self levelling!.......?
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #1 on: 11 February 2009, 12:17:31 »

Your MV6 would also need to get the compressor etc fitted as well to make it work, I would think....
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #2 on: 11 February 2009, 12:49:40 »

sorry Hotel, i didnt make it quite clear, i have an elite with sl and need to change front shocks and springs, would like to fit mv6 suspension but dont want to buy new rear shocks as well as i have just stumped 150 sobs for new sl rear shocks in elite spec. If i can just fit mv6 springs then great. But if i  have to change shocks as well then its not worth the money and agro considering the expense outlayed already and will just fit stock items.
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #3 on: 11 February 2009, 13:04:29 »

I belive they are diffrent from the Elites to the MV6 when i have mine done i got new shocks all round and a full set of ex-plod MV6 springs from a car that only had 30K on them. From what i can recall the diffrence with the Facelift Elite or MV6 are both Springs and Shocks.

Have had the MV6 shocks and springs has made the car better to handle and comfort is still good.

Hope that is of help.  :y
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #4 on: 11 February 2009, 13:24:58 »

not without getting your level sensor reset on rear for the self leveling with the mv6 being lower  :y
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« Reply #5 on: 11 February 2009, 15:05:42 »

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not without getting your level sensor reset on rear for the self leveling with the mv6 being lower  :y

Thanks Markey, i had presumed i could bend the tie rod or adjust the right angle arm on the self level box to give the correct ride hight at the rear...?

So your basically saying fit mv6 springs and job done. Stock  shocks with self levelling will work with mv6 springs and adjust the self levelling box to give correct mv6 ride hight?
 
Must admit i am a little confused, mv6 springs  are shorter, got that bit, but i am under the impression, as  SP 3.2 says, that mv6 shocks are shorter too? Or do the same shocks sit lower and have less travel due to stiffer springs and therefor will not "bottom out" or hit the bump stops?
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #6 on: 11 February 2009, 15:32:21 »

When i had my old  S/L off and conpaired them to a new MV6 one they where a bit shorter not much but when fitted the car was lower than before .

Also the seem to be stiffer in action i.e harder to compress by hand and slower to return.  
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #7 on: 11 February 2009, 15:57:08 »

If you go down the MV6 route I may be interested in the S/L shocks ::) ::)
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #8 on: 11 February 2009, 16:26:40 »

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If you go down the MV6 route I may be interested in the S/L shocks ::) ::)
Well this is it, i want to keep the self levelling shocks,i "beleive" mv6 susp, does not have self level, from what i have read, but as is logical, police spec mv6 cars will have hids, esp the 3.2! So will have sports suspension AND self level! So why do without self level?

 More q's than a's so far.
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #9 on: 11 February 2009, 16:28:28 »

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If you go down the MV6 route I may be interested in the S/L shocks ::) ::)
Well this is it, i want to keep the self levelling shocks,i "beleive" mv6 susp, does not have self level, from what i have read, but as is logical, police spec mv6 cars will have hids, esp the 3.2! So will have sports suspension AND self level! So why do without self level?

 More q's than a's so far.

MV6, by default, does not have self levelling suspension, plod or non plod....
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #10 on: 11 February 2009, 17:06:24 »

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If you go down the MV6 route I may be interested in the S/L shocks ::) ::)
Well this is it, i want to keep the self levelling shocks,i "beleive" mv6 susp, does not have self level, from what i have read, but as is logical, police spec mv6 cars will have hids, esp the 3.2! So will have sports suspension AND self level! So why do without self level?

 More q's than a's so far.

MV6, by default, does not have self levelling suspension, plod or non plod....

Firstly.
Well thats my understanding, but getting that info from a dealer is difficult. They are telling me all sorts, therefor getting the right part numbers is impossible. I havent even got as far as a factors for springs as i dont know what to ask them for...

Secondly,
Regardless off whats stock mv6 or not, will mv6 suspension work with my self level rear shocks? And if not why?

Thirdly, if i cant fit mv6 suspension, what else will work with self level that gives better lower firmer handeling? Eibach, Bilstein? Although i dont really want to pay much more than vx trade club prices for front shocks, lower and stiffer springs would be enough i presume...?



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« Reply #11 on: 12 February 2009, 09:01:16 »

spoke to Tony at Wim about this, his first thought was that the elite s/l damping rates would not match the mv6 springs?
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #12 on: 12 February 2009, 09:23:53 »

i would tend to agree with tony but with the shocks being newish after adjusting level arm i would say it would be fine ! if you are fancying track days mabye not but for genaral driving  :y
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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #13 on: 12 February 2009, 22:48:41 »

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i would tend to agree with tony but with the shocks being newish after adjusting level arm i would say it would be fine ! if you are fancying track days mabye not but for genaral driving  :y
Thanks Markey, i hope there will be track days, but they def be on a bike, so the car is safe. :-)
To confirm, with help from Kevin Wood, i was able to supply the dealer with an 03 Mv6 3.2 reg number!
Similar spec to my car.And simply asked for a Quote on shocks and springs all round with self levelling option, then a price on rear shocks and springs for mine.
 
Having picked myself up off the floor from seeing the £1300 plus price, i was pleased to see that part numbers for rear shocks and springs with sl for  Kevins mv6 would be exactly the same as my Elite!!!

This is great news as i can now fit mv6 front end and just lower the rear ride hight to match the front. So i dont even need mv6 rear springs. All i need now is a pair of mv6 front shocks at £46 odd on tc. And source a pair of non vx springs of the same mv6 spec for the front. Job done.

Although i think i should ring Tony at wim and check the book ride hight for both vehicles.

And i wonder if vx do a shorter tie rod for the self levelling arm on the mv6? Hmmm.

Having fitted a tow bar and will be fitting an lpg donut tank the spare wheel well, i wonder if keeping sl might be wise, esp when towing, with all the extra heft on the back?



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Re: parts man says"mv6 can have s/l suspension"!
« Reply #14 on: 12 February 2009, 22:53:06 »

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Having fitted a tow bar and will be fitting an lpg donut tank the spare wheel well, i wonder if keeping sl might be wise, esp when towing, with all the extra heft on the back?

If you're only towing a little trailer then not a problem with lowering and everything else... If you're towing big and heavy, like pikey boxes, then I'd definitely keep the S/L :y :y :y
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