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HELP Loads of problems please help me
« on: 18 March 2009, 14:59:01 »

5 weeks ago my gearbox went and I had replaced, since I got the car back I have had 5 weeks of hell. keeps coming up random multiple misfire 1-3-5 bank, I have replaced the coil 4 times now and still the same fault codes, I have been at my mates garage today AGAIN where the fault code have been deleted again.. but now I have
p0130 Circuit Malfunction
p0170 fuel trim malfunction bank 1 x2
p0300 random multiple misfire
p0301 bank 1
p0303 bank 3
p0305 bank 5

Please help as my car is doing my head in now......

Even the garage is running out of ideas.
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #1 on: 18 March 2009, 14:59:59 »

drive Omega 2002, 2.6 v6

NOT 2.5
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #2 on: 18 March 2009, 15:11:59 »

not surprise the garage has run out of ideas:  likely they are the cause of the problem!

I'd suspect the wiring loom going to the coil packs.  i'm not familiar with the 2.6 but that's where i'd start
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #3 on: 18 March 2009, 15:30:47 »

Jonathan, you may be closer to the truth then you imagine!


The fault codes you are getting do NOT sudgest a coil pack failure. Under a failure of the coil pack you normaly see 1 of the 3 coils fail, not all 3 at once, resulting in a miss fire against a single cylinder.......unless of course you are VERY unlucky!

So, its clear we are dealing with the numebr 1 bank thanks to the info of P0301, p0303, p0305.

We also have some lambda faults.

P0130 - 02 sensor circuit bank 1 sensor 1
P0170 - Fuel trim malfunction bank 1


Now, given that each front pipe has two lambdas, one doing mixture control and the other dealing with cat efficiency.....start by checking the daft sods have not connected the 2 O2 snsors up wrong on the bank 1 front pipe!
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #4 on: 18 March 2009, 16:01:00 »

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Jonathan, you may be closer to the truth then you imagine!


The fault codes you are getting do NOT sudgest a coil pack failure. Under a failure of the coil pack you normaly see 1 of the 3 coils fail, not all 3 at once, resulting in a miss fire against a single cylinder.......unless of course you are VERY unlucky!

So, its clear we are dealing with the numebr 1 bank thanks to the info of P0301, p0303, p0305.

We also have some lambda faults.

P0130 - 02 sensor circuit bank 1 sensor 1
P0170 - Fuel trim malfunction bank 1


Now, given that each front pipe has two lambdas, one doing mixture control and the other dealing with cat efficiency.....start by checking the daft sods have not connected the 2 O2 snsors up wrong on the bank 1 front pipe!

only 'cos i remeber someone else having a similar problem about a year or so ago.......
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #5 on: 18 March 2009, 16:10:23 »

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Jonathan, you may be closer to the truth then you imagine!


The fault codes you are getting do NOT sudgest a coil pack failure. Under a failure of the coil pack you normaly see 1 of the 3 coils fail, not all 3 at once, resulting in a miss fire against a single cylinder.......unless of course you are VERY unlucky!

So, its clear we are dealing with the numebr 1 bank thanks to the info of P0301, p0303, p0305.

We also have some lambda faults.

P0130 - 02 sensor circuit bank 1 sensor 1
P0170 - Fuel trim malfunction bank 1


Now, given that each front pipe has two lambdas, one doing mixture control and the other dealing with cat efficiency.....start by checking the daft sods have not connected the 2 O2 snsors up wrong on the bank 1 front pipe!

Where do I locate these? I am Car thick. Sorry
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #6 on: 18 March 2009, 16:33:18 »

Photo of the front pipe (removed from the car) showing the 2 sensors



Here is a pic of where the sensors connect to on the drivers side of the geabox.




So, find the connectors and swap them over!
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #7 on: 19 March 2009, 12:58:39 »

Thanks for the information. Unfortunately it made no difference! any other ideas?
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #8 on: 19 March 2009, 13:26:42 »

What codes do you have now?
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #9 on: 19 March 2009, 13:33:36 »

Havent taken back to garage to check but can only guess they are the same as before!
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #10 on: 19 March 2009, 13:38:44 »

You can read them yourself....have a look in the guides areas
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #12 on: 19 March 2009, 17:50:24 »

Got 0300
0301
0303
0305

Still says coil even though its been changed loads
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #13 on: 19 March 2009, 18:09:51 »

Yes but. it no longer says fuel trim!

Ok.

So, how is it running, miss firing, under what conditions?

Is the ECU light on?
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Re: HELP Loads of problems please help me
« Reply #14 on: 19 March 2009, 18:10:28 »

And no it does NOT say coil, i says miss fire.....
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