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Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« on: 26 April 2009, 16:41:55 »

How does a chiped 2.5td compare with a 2.5 V6 petrol in terms of performance ?
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #1 on: 26 April 2009, 17:25:37 »

v6 will win all races...
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #2 on: 26 April 2009, 18:49:54 »

Fair comment .....just as i thought
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #3 on: 26 April 2009, 18:59:30 »

Out of interest how about real life efficiency figures?
(dreaming SWMBO will allow me to buy a better miggy)
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #4 on: 26 April 2009, 22:06:38 »

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v6 will win all races...

Not sure on the "all races" part.  A colleague has a V6 and was asked to run his car against his mates freshly chipped 2.5td.  He said it was pretty much even until just over 100mph and then his V6 edged ahead.
Until that point he was quite concerned he was going to have to eat a fair helping of humble pie after mocking his mates claim that the chipped tractor was a vast improvement over standard.  
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #5 on: 26 April 2009, 22:10:56 »

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Just buy what you want! Is SWMBO buying? Go for what you want ..... silent meals only last a few days!!!  :y :y :y
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #6 on: 26 April 2009, 22:13:22 »

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v6 will win all races...

Not sure on the "all races" part.  A colleague has a V6 and was asked to run his car against his mates freshly chipped 2.5td.  He said it was pretty much even until just over 100mph and then his V6 edged ahead.
Until that point he was quite concerned he was going to have to eat a fair helping of humble pie after mocking his mates claim that the chipped tractor was a vast improvement over standard.  


Modified diesel vs stock petrol :P. Throw some 3.0 cams into the mix and see what happens ::)
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #7 on: 26 April 2009, 22:24:18 »

i think a V6 would run rings round a TD (btw Racing an old tractor engine like that BMW 2.5 engine it isnt a Common rail tuned engine racing it certainly will blow it up)

the economoy is very similar and i would rather have the V6 i bet the V6 would be more reliable too

that BMW engine is very overated anyone with BMW specialist experiance will tell you lots of bad things about it!
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #8 on: 26 April 2009, 22:28:09 »

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v6 will win all races...

Not sure on the "all races" part.  A colleague has a V6 and was asked to run his car against his mates freshly chipped 2.5td.  He said it was pretty much even until just over 100mph and then his V6 edged ahead.
Until that point he was quite concerned he was going to have to eat a fair helping of humble pie after mocking his mates claim that the chipped tractor was a vast improvement over standard.  
0-60, chipped auto tractor around low 9s, standard auto 2.5 around mid 8s. There may be an area above motorway speed limit where the tractor gets 'on song' and would beat the v6. Both start to run out of breather just shy of 130mph, though the v6 will still keep winding up slowly.
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #9 on: 26 April 2009, 22:40:42 »

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i think a V6 would run rings round a TD (btw Racing an old tractor engine like that BMW 2.5 engine it isnt a Common rail tuned engine racing it certainly will blow it up)

the economoy is very similar and i would rather have the V6 i bet the V6 would be more reliable too

that BMW engine is very overated anyone with BMW specialist experiance will tell you lots of bad things about it!


 :D ;D :D ;D  I take it you've not owned many Miggy Ferguson's then.
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #10 on: 27 April 2009, 08:39:14 »

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i think a V6 would run rings round a TD (btw Racing an old tractor engine like that BMW 2.5 engine it isnt a Common rail tuned engine racing it certainly will blow it up)

the economoy is very similar and i would rather have the V6 i bet the V6 would be more reliable too

that BMW engine is very overated anyone with BMW specialist experiance will tell you lots of bad things about it!
Racing it won't damage it purely because it isn't common rail - in fact some say the old style injectors are more robust than the common rail types.  You may struggle to get the same ultimate performance, and certainly not the same economy, but both are equally prone to self destruction, as mechanically very similar.

Chipped, the economy is better than unchipped. Personally, I don't think the engine is suited to GM autoboxes, as they really do seem to sap the mpg when used in conjunction with this unit.  In manual form, its a good package, both power wise (slightly less than 2.5 v6) and economy (way better than the v6).  If I could get a 2.5TD manual Elite saloon, believe me, I would be MV6-less ;)


You're right about its rating though, it is overrated, and when it destructs, it does so pretty spectucularly (probably due to previous poor servicing - its prone to blocked or restricted oilways).  Its certainly not a bad engine, people think because it says BMW on the side that it is something special when it is not. It suffers all the usual problems we expect from BMW engines.
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #11 on: 27 April 2009, 08:51:53 »

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.......  If I could get a 2.5TD manual Elite saloon,  ......

There's a manual TD Omega in a local scrap yard!  :y
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« Reply #12 on: 27 April 2009, 09:01:54 »

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.......  If I could get a 2.5TD manual Elite saloon,  ......

There's a manual TD Omega in a local scrap yard!  :y
Virtually all of the manuals are GLS spec.  Seen one or 2 CDs, but all CDXs and ELites I've ever seen are autos.  I know Omegatoy has found an Elite TD manual, but thats an estate...
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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #13 on: 27 April 2009, 09:03:26 »

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.......  If I could get a 2.5TD manual Elite saloon,  ......

There's a manual TD Omega in a local scrap yard!  :y
Virtually all of the manuals are GLS spec.  Seen one or 2 CDs, but all CDXs and ELites I've ever seen are autos.  I know Omegatoy has found an Elite TD manual, but thats an estate...


ive seen how you pack for camping, surely an estate would be a good idea  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Diesel Vs Petrol Omegas
« Reply #14 on: 27 April 2009, 09:06:12 »

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.......  If I could get a 2.5TD manual Elite saloon,  ......

There's a manual TD Omega in a local scrap yard!  :y
Virtually all of the manuals are GLS spec.  Seen one or 2 CDs, but all CDXs and ELites I've ever seen are autos.  I know Omegatoy has found an Elite TD manual, but thats an estate...


ive seen how you pack for camping, surely an estate would be a good idea  ;D ;D ;D
It would be very handy for 3 or 4 times a year, but not sure if I could live with one day to day  :-/

Might be going to York in a Rover, as I have a few parts to take up there  :'( (not that I mind driving the Rover, I like it)
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