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Car would not start this morning.
« on: 13 July 2009, 07:40:26 »
Hi,

Went out to the car to go to work this morning and it wont even turn over.  Waiting now for AA to arrive as I can't miss work today.

When you turn the ignition on, all dash lighs appear as normal but when you try and start it, it won't even try and turn over.

When I try the pedal trick to see if there are any codes, what I get is the EML light flashing continuosly which I think relates to the immobiliser.  I don't know if it's a coincidince or not, but I swapped batteries between my two key fobs yesterday evening, so could this be related?

Also, I checked the battery voltage and was getting  11volts which is a little low, but surely which that much voltage it should at least turn a few times.

Thanks for any advice!
Richard
« Last Edit: 13 July 2009, 08:05:15 by RichardH »
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #1 on: 13 July 2009, 07:47:05 »
£1 to 1p the little back immobiliser chip has fallen out your key.

Hence the immob wont let you start the car.

Doubt the AA can do anything.


Time to get down on your hands and knees where you did the batteries and hope noone has done the hoovering.  :y
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #2 on: 13 July 2009, 07:57:05 »
Hi Jimbob

Where exactly is this chip inside the fob? I can't see anything on the floor where I changed the batteries.  Also I get the same problem if I use the spare key.

**EDIT**I just read the pedal test post in the FAQ and it looks like constant flashing of the EML during the pedal trick means no codes, not immobiliser.**EDIT**
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #3 on: 13 July 2009, 08:08:49 »
to clarify, when trying to start the car does the spanner flash contantly?

or is it just when checking for codes?

the chip is about .5cm long .25 x .25 bacl plastic, it stays in the horseshoe bit of the key
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #4 on: 13 July 2009, 08:16:30 »
AA just arrived and got it started by jumping it.  Looks like a new battery needed. Thanks for the advice Jimbob.
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #5 on: 13 July 2009, 08:20:22 »
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AA just barrived and got it started by jumping it.  Looks like a new battery needed. Thanks for the advice Jimbob.


Glad it was an easy fix  :y
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #6 on: 13 July 2009, 08:55:01 »
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to clarify, when trying to start the car does the spanner flash contantly?

or is it just when checking for codes?

the chip is about .5cm long .25 x .25 bacl plastic, it stays in the horseshoe bit of the key

Thats one hell of a chip that you got there mate,
dont you mean mm long and not cm long?.
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #7 on: 13 July 2009, 09:32:42 »
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to clarify, when trying to start the car does the spanner flash contantly?

or is it just when checking for codes?

the chip is about .5cm long .25 x .25 bacl plastic, it stays in the horseshoe bit of the key

Thats one hell of a chip that you got there mate,
dont you mean mm long and not cm long?.

deffo a decimal point at the start  :y

so .5 (ie 1/2 a cm) x .25 (ie 1/4) x .24 (ie 1/4)  :y

thought it was clear, sorry if not!
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #8 on: 13 July 2009, 09:36:29 »
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to clarify, when trying to start the car does the spanner flash contantly?

or is it just when checking for codes?

the chip is about .5cm long .25 x .25 bacl plastic, it stays in the horseshoe bit of the key

Thats one hell of a chip that you got there mate,
dont you mean mm long and not cm long?.

deffo a decimal point at the start  :y

so .5 (ie 1/2 a cm) x .25 (ie 1/4) x .24 (ie 1/4)  :y

thought it was clear, sorry if not!


If you're going to do metric Jim just stick to SI units ie millimeters & meters ........  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #9 on: 13 July 2009, 09:38:17 »
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£1 to 1p the little back immobiliser chip has fallen out your key.

Hence the immob wont let you start the car.

Doubt the AA can do anything.


Time to get down on your hands and knees where you did the batteries and hope noone has done the hoovering.  :y

The chip only relates to the ECU & not the starter, it'll still turn over with no chip in the key.  :y
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #10 on: 13 July 2009, 10:26:07 »
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AA just barrived and got it started by jumping it.  Looks like a new battery needed. Thanks for the advice Jimbob.



Glad it was an easy fix  :y

I hope it will be.  I'll just check the voltages later with a multimeter to make sure the alternator is ok before splashing out on a battery.
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Re: Car would not start this morning.
« Reply #11 on: 13 July 2009, 10:27:25 »
Good guide on that in the maint section  :y
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