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[portomega]

Right got my car back last night after it being away for 2 days having the HG done. but now my temp guage isnt working plus it looks like they lost 2 of the bolts/screws/nuts ( whatever they are lol) that go along the top of the engine/ cam cover ( 4 or 5 on each side) one they've just replace with a different type and tightened it up, the second they just plonked a long screw into the hole and it just sits there not screwed in or anything!
Firstly the temp gauge....., i rung the guy up that did the HG and he said its nothing to do with him that the gauge isnt working, although he did replace the thermosat too, not sure if they are connected myself and its probably the sensor thats failed....how easy are they to replace and where are they located? i got a feeling hes unplugged it and forgotten to plug it back in
Second the 2 missing bolts........ i asked this "mechanic" about why they were missing and he said "dont worry it wont make any difference" now i dont believe that having a gaping hole in the top of the engine will do it any good so.....can you buy them from vauxhall? and does anyone know what they are actually called so i dont look an idiot when i ask at the desk? lol 
im so p*ssed off right now with the work this guy has done, ok hes fixed the HG problem, no morw white smoke or coolant lose but seems to have dodged the rest of the bits when putting the engine back together oh and all this cost me £833!!!!! 
Any help on my two above problems would be much appreciated guys  and no i wont be taking it back to the guy that did my HG  :exclamation

[portomega]

excuse my tying by the way lol ive just got in from a 12 hr night shift and along with the stress of the car problems it makes spelling and typing rather complicated  if you're able to work out what i've written above leave me your replies and i'll catch up with them when i get up later 

[Lazydocker]

At the price you've paid, take it back and tell him you want it putting right. You have paid top money for a job, not for him to generate more faults! 

The temp gauge is something to do with him... He'll have had to unplug it to remove the head! As for the missing bolts... I'd be more concerned that they may be rattling about the engine bay than anything else! :-/

[Lee A]

Sounds like you have a very unprofessional mechanic there  :-/

I would make a list of things that they need to fix and give it to them, then give them a day or 2 to sort it, else go to trading standards.

Did you pay by credit card? Can dispute the charges if you did, i would! The temp gauge might not be their fault but any good garage taking in £833 (!) notes for a repair should be doing a faultless job.

The 2 bolts missing is just unexcusable. if they dont sort it to your satisfaction i would even go to the local rag and get them to investigate, they love stories about consumers being ripped off!

[Abiton]

Oh dear.

If you are determined to fix it yourself from here, the missing bolts would surely just be called 'cam cover bolts'.  Don't tighten to more than 8Nm.

The Gauge Temperature sender is marked up in this image.  Only really accessible by feel with all the stuff that's in the way (EGR(1)/DIS(2)/HT leads).  Find the 2-pin connector for the ECU coolant temperature sender and it's just next to it.

[Ghost]

With your temp gauge I would say they could not find the connection to refit the cabel, it is at the back of your engion, the cabel needs putting back on but it is a bitch to do.

[Mr Skrunts]

With your temp gauge I would say they could not find the connection to refit the cabel, it is at the back of your engion, the cabel needs putting back on but it is a bitch to do.

But surely after doing a head gasget the y should have pulled out the stops to sort the gauge so they know there were no temperature or air lock problems after doing a "head gasket".   hello, knock knock, is there anyone at home. :-/

[portomega]

thanks for the replies guys  i know i should really take it back to this guy but he seems to have lost all intrest now that hes got my cash, just giving me " oh i could maybe fit it in....." when with my HG he could do it the next day and came to get the car at 6am! i think ive been well and truely done over on this one :-/ does anyone know what size the cam cover bolts are? vauxhall couldnt give me a price over the phone as they said theres all different sizes and i dont have the tools at the moment to remove one to check

[Ghost]

With your temp gauge I would say they could not find the connection to refit the cabel, it is at the back of your engion, the cabel needs putting back on but it is a bitch to do.

But surely after doing a head gasget the y should have pulled out the stops to sort the gauge so they know there were no temperature or air lock problems after doing a "head gasket".   hello, knock knock, is there anyone at home. :-/

In our eyes Yes they should have done that But we all know what for cowboys are out there,
It might have been someone like an apprentice that didnt find it or the mechanic just couldnt be bothered.

[Kevin Wood]

Sound like muppets to me. They'll probably sit up and take note if you lodge a dispute with your credit card company and get on to trading standards though. 

Kevin

[sparkyw666.]

Sound like muppets to me. They'll probably sit up and take note if you lodge a dispute with your credit card company and get on to trading standards though. 

Kevin

can stand people like this as Kevin said report them to trading standards that will make them wise up

[portomega]

just been to vauxhall and got 2 new cam cover bolts  85p for the pair so not bad . only problem now is ive not got the right tool to tighten them and cant find anywhere that have that type of "star" shaped head 
Also the plug for the temp gauage sensor is a sort of a flat 2 pin plug? as ive routed around at the back of the engine ( burnt hands andwrists!!!  ) and found this kind of plug just hanging there... could this be the right one? but cant find where it plugs back in, anyone or the person that showed the diagram got a bigger picture?

[Abiton]

Try this:



The two-pin connector is for the ECU Coolant Temperature sender.  You should find a single wire with a connector on it dangling off the same bit of loom.  As I said you have to find the connectors on the senders by feel, but the ECU one just pushes on and can only go the correct way round, the other one slides on.  I'll see if I can find a spare sender and photograph it with a similar connector slid on.  (After lunch, which should give your engine time enough to cool down so you don't burn yourself any more).

 
Pete

[portomega]

cheers thanks for that 

[Abiton]

Mmm, can't find my spare sender.

Picture a pinhead, but rather enlarged,  say 6mm diameter.  Then imagine it slid, end-on into a crimp connector like this:


The wire ends up coming off at right-angles to the shaft of the pin.  The (loom) connector has a rectangular black plastic insulator around it on all sides except where the pinhead bit slides in.

All of the above assumes that your 2.2 has the same sender/connector types/styles as my 2.0.  Perhaps someone can confirm this?

Here's an image of the sender type that mine has with pinhead feature on the left: