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[Ironingboard]

I have a question I hope some one might know the answer to. I'm planning to replace the rear donut bushes on my mig and I've seen on the EPC that there are different types of bushes (standard, patrol car, etc.).

My question is whats the difference between the patrol car one and the standard, because I read about the hassle of using carlton bushes to firm up the ride but they dont fit correctly..... could the patrol car ones not do the job as well, instead of using the standard ones???

[feeutfo]

epc shows differant bushes per model? Interesting.
General thinking on here seems to be that only shocks and springs change.(although have seen mention of roll bars and stearing rod being differant) Did they give you, or can you get, exact details? Part no.s etc?

But for your issue, give them your reg and chassis number and they should be able to give correct items for your car. I would not be concerned with any fit issues as omega suspension parts dont vary in dimensions as such, ride hight and ride quality aside. If the rear donut bushes vary in anyway i would think it would be in consistency of the rubber used or size of void holes rather than their actual size hm respect of ride quality. Forget any issues with carlton bushes imho, they are not designed for the omega, so no reason to "expect" them to fit. (for info, they(carlton bushes) are set on the spacer at a differant hight, so will fit, but then work out after a day or 2)

Edit, re read, sorry, may be worth a try. Not aware of anyone trying firmer "omega" bushes, as not aware of any differances between models, afaik.

[Ironingboard]

will get the part numbers, curious if anyone has an ex-plod who has changed their donut bushes, pictures would be good for comparison.

Might order the police ones and see what the difference is, any genuine ones have got to be better than the chewing gum that I got off of eBay and fitted.

[Ironingboard]

Ok EPC shows two types of bushes for the Omega, one for cars along the lines of heavy duty such as Hearse armour plated which is 90539049, or non heavy duty (standard cars) which is 90447156

[markey mark]

i have just fitted a set of carlton/senater ones in mine has tightened the back end up loads ! i have also lowered it 40mm  8-) 8-)

[Jimbob]

i have just fitted a set of carlton/senater ones in mine has tightened the back end up loads ! i have also lowered it 40mm  8-) 8-)

watch for them popping out 

[andyc]

The standard bushes 90447156 are available from UK stock @ £39.02 each + VAT

The H/D ones, 90539049 are not available from UK stock but are available from Europe @ £50.58 each

Cheers
Andy

[Jimbob]

The standard bushes 90447156 are available from UK stock @ £39.02 each + VAT

The H/D ones, 90539049 are not available from UK stock but are available from Europe @ £50.58 each

Cheers
Andy

is that each or for a pair?  he asked hopefully 

[andyc]

have a guess

[Ironingboard]

Well I heard on the grapevine that the heavy duties ones are around £80 each from Autovaux.

But something tells me that these heavy duty ones might be the answer to firming up the back end of our migs and to forget about trying to get the Carlton ones to fit.

[Jimbob]

have a guess

 


of course, would have helped if I head read your post properly!

a job I need to before long.

[andyc]

Not sure what ones Autovax are using but if they are OE ones then they are charging over the odds.

One of the guys from the ABS have Superflex make up some poly ones for the Carlton/Senator & Monza, now that stiffen up the back

Andy

[Ironingboard]

well to be honest Autovaux didn't have an exact price, but it would have to be ordered from Germany.

Anyway is anyone going to order some to see if they are any good 

[andyc]

Give us call on the number below and i'll order some for you. You can be the OOF tester

[feeutfo]

having driven Kevin Woods mv6 3.2 fitted with dunlop sport max tyres, i really dont think its necessary to fit stiffer bushes to get the car to handel straight, if thats what your trying to achievie of course.
 I have used Falken tyres on Omegas for ages and felt happy with them except for tramlineing issues that refused to go away and set about all the usuall fixes to sort it. Full set ups to wishbones with stiffer bushes to shocks to stearing idlers to carlton rear bushes, the lot. Current set of 912s are appalling as witnesed by The Boy and Kevin Wood, although both suspect another issue with the car as well as the tyres which are a Major factor at the very least.
 
My point?

Well, i "Think" this is down to tyres! am a bit previous as i am due a full set or sports contact 3s to be fitted tomorrow morning, but i fully expect the whole range of handeling issues to vanish when done.

Will let you know, but as said having driven Kevins car, it is totally possible to get the omega to behave with factory fit parts and decent tyres, but note that have not witnessed your issues with your car, there is only so much help you can give on a forum before you have experience these symptoms your self to be sure we are all "on the same page" as they say.

With all that in mind, i would recommend stock parts and tyres that are as close to factory fit as poss. But for my issues, and i suspect yours as well, we will see tomorrow, for the better i hope. :-)