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Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« on: 27 September 2009, 16:57:45 »

Afternoon all.

I'm trying to service the handbrake, but I can't get the star type adjuster to move so I can back the handbrake shoes off. It just seems to be rusted up solid and the screwdriver I've used has slipped a couple of times and I don't want to start rounding things off.

Is there any other way to get in there, perhaps removing the shoe retaining springs with some needle nosed pliers?

Any help gratefully received!!  :)
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #1 on: 27 September 2009, 17:12:52 »

Can`t you just remove the rear disc and get more room to see.
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #2 on: 27 September 2009, 17:15:03 »

If there is no other way of loosening it off then yes justtake one of the retaining clips off then just pull the adjuster off. Once you have done that give the adjust a good clean up then use copper slip to grease the internal up.
  You then shouldn't have any more problems.
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #3 on: 27 September 2009, 19:29:19 »

As it was getting on in the day, and I need the car for work tomorrow, I decided against trying to remove the retaining springs in case I couldn't get the disc off. Didn't fancy fighting long into the night with it.

The adjuster looks like it has quite a few points in it - more than I've ever seen before on a bolt. I was wondering if a long Torx bit might do the job better than a screwdriver?  :-/
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #4 on: 27 September 2009, 19:36:15 »

If the shoes aren`t binding just a simple case of removing caliper, undoing disc retaining screw, pulling disc off then being able to see what you`re doing. (assuming you haven`t already removed the disc)
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #5 on: 27 September 2009, 20:27:51 »

That's what I was hoping for RobG, but it was stubborn to say the least. The hub was moving relatively freely and had a few taps with the hammer, but didn't seem interested in coming off.

Could it just be rusted on?
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #6 on: 27 September 2009, 20:32:27 »

If it`s spinning relatively easily I would have thought a few stout smacks with wooden mallet would shift it
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #7 on: 27 September 2009, 20:35:33 »

My last Omega had deeply grooved drums and the disc/drums wouldn't come off without backing the adjusters off significantly.

I wouldn't worry too much about damaging the adjusters, they are pretty robust and they do feel a bit odd when they are operating properly. The shoe retaining springs drop into dips in the adjuster and it takes quite a lot of force to turn the adjuster.
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #8 on: 27 September 2009, 20:50:15 »

I couldn't turn the adjuster at all though Andy, the screwdriver slipped each time.

I was only using a smallish hammer on the disc hub, perhaps a wooden mallet might be a better option.  :D
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #9 on: 27 September 2009, 22:10:12 »

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I couldn't turn the adjuster at all though Andy, the screwdriver slipped each time.

I was only using a smallish hammer on the disc hub, perhaps a wooden mallet might be a better option.  :D

Mine was the same when I tried to remove the disc - when you have removed the caliper and the screw which holds the disc to the hub hit the disc with your weapon of mass destruction fairly hard, then turn the disc a quarter turn then welly it then turn , welly then turn until the disc comes free - which eventually it will, but may take 10-15 mins of wellying it before it comes free.
You obviously hit the disc in the cut-out of the backplate (where the caliper sits).
Your weapon of mass destruction should preferably be something wooden (if you don't want to damage the disc) but if it stubbornly refuses to move after 15 mins of wellying then you might have to destroy the disc by hitting with a sledge hammer/lumphammer to remove.
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #10 on: 27 September 2009, 22:20:02 »

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I couldn't turn the adjuster at all though Andy, the screwdriver slipped each time.
Mmmm. It feels like that when they are working.

I wouldn't want to apply any force in getting the drums off because the backplates are rubbish and any force applied to the shoes will pull on the retaining pegs. If the retaining pegs pull out of the backplate then you will need new backplates.

To change the backplates involves pressing the wheel bearings out with a hydraulic press. :(
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Re: Rear brake servicing - hit a snag - help!!
« Reply #11 on: 27 September 2009, 23:41:41 »

Have you tried backing off the centre adjuster under the heat shields?
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