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Wife's Car Failed MOT. Help Please
« on: 06 December 2007, 18:46:40 »

Bad news for me. The wifes 1998 Astra G failed the MOT test today. I was afraid it might fail on the emissions, given the rough idleing which I haven't sorted yet, but actually it failed on the brakes.

The report said, brake discs and pads badly worn so no problem there I can replace those easily enough. The problem is that it also says off side front brake pipe and near side rear brake pipe badly corroded. I told the garage that I would put the things right myself but I don't have a clue how to replace the brake pipes.

Can I buy the pipes ready to fit or do I need to buy a length of pipe and bend it to shape and cut it to length?

If I have to bend it myself how do I do this without kinking the pipe when I bend it?

Is this something I should be taking on myself in the first place?

Please help. I don't want to go back and ask them to do it now.  :(
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Re: Wife's Car Failed MOT. Help Please
« Reply #1 on: 06 December 2007, 18:51:18 »

Dont fret Mr Golfbudgie..........the pipes will be the correct shape......no bending required  :y

You dont think they would let vx muppets techicians go bending pipes!!
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Re: Wife's Car Failed MOT. Help Please
« Reply #2 on: 06 December 2007, 18:54:36 »

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Bad news for me. The wifes 1998 Astra G failed the MOT test today. I was afraid it might fail on the emissions, given the rough idleing which I haven't sorted yet, but actually it failed on the brakes.

The report said, brake discs and pads badly worn so no problem there I can replace those easily enough. The problem is that it also says off side front brake pipe and near side rear brake pipe badly corroded. I told the garage that I would put the things right myself but I don't have a clue how to replace the brake pipes.

Can I buy the pipes ready to fit or do I need to buy a length of pipe and bend it to shape and cut it to length?

If I have to bend it myself how do I do this without kinking the pipe when I bend it?

Is this something I should be taking on myself in the first place?

Please help. I don't want to go back and ask them to do it now.  :(
NO ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Wife's Car Failed MOT. Help Please
« Reply #3 on: 06 December 2007, 18:56:03 »

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Bad news for me. The wifes 1998 Astra G failed the MOT test today. I was afraid it might fail on the emissions, given the rough idleing which I haven't sorted yet, but actually it failed on the brakes.

The report said, brake discs and pads badly worn so no problem there I can replace those easily enough. The problem is that it also says off side front brake pipe and near side rear brake pipe badly corroded. I told the garage that I would put the things right myself but I don't have a clue how to replace the brake pipes.

Can I buy the pipes ready to fit or do I need to buy a length of pipe and bend it to shape and cut it to length?

If I have to bend it myself how do I do this without kinking the pipe when I bend it?

Is this something I should be taking on myself in the first place?

Please help. I don't want to go back and ask them to do it now.  :(
NO ;D ;D ;D

break off you! You know nothing about boxing and you know less than me about cars.  >:(

 ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #4 on: 06 December 2007, 18:57:58 »

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Bad news for me. The wifes 1998 Astra G failed the MOT test today. I was afraid it might fail on the emissions, given the rough idleing which I haven't sorted yet, but actually it failed on the brakes.

The report said, brake discs and pads badly worn so no problem there I can replace those easily enough. The problem is that it also says off side front brake pipe and near side rear brake pipe badly corroded. I told the garage that I would put the things right myself but I don't have a clue how to replace the brake pipes.

Can I buy the pipes ready to fit or do I need to buy a length of pipe and bend it to shape and cut it to length?

If I have to bend it myself how do I do this without kinking the pipe when I bend it?

Is this something I should be taking on myself in the first place?

Please help. I don't want to go back and ask them to do it now.  :(
NO ;D ;D ;D

break off you! You know nothing about boxing and you know less than me about cars.  >:(

 ;D ;D ;D
get in the Ring with me then Big Mouth ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #5 on: 06 December 2007, 19:01:22 »

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Bad news for me. The wifes 1998 Astra G failed the MOT test today. I was afraid it might fail on the emissions, given the rough idleing which I haven't sorted yet, but actually it failed on the brakes.

The report said, brake discs and pads badly worn so no problem there I can replace those easily enough. The problem is that it also says off side front brake pipe and near side rear brake pipe badly corroded. I told the garage that I would put the things right myself but I don't have a clue how to replace the brake pipes.

Can I buy the pipes ready to fit or do I need to buy a length of pipe and bend it to shape and cut it to length?

If I have to bend it myself how do I do this without kinking the pipe when I bend it?

Is this something I should be taking on myself in the first place?

Please help. I don't want to go back and ask them to do it now.  :(
NO ;D ;D ;D

break off you! You know nothing about boxing and you know less than me about cars.  >:(

 ;D ;D ;D
get in the Ring with me then Big Mouth ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D







AND.....................as for the cars i do know more about them than you..............

1. I fill up all by myself
2. I have checked the oil before in my life
3. I have changed a tire
4. I lock and unlock my car door all the time (with the FOB)

So there :P :P :P :P :P :P
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« Reply #6 on: 06 December 2007, 19:04:20 »

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Bad news for me. The wifes 1998 Astra G failed the MOT test today. I was afraid it might fail on the emissions, given the rough idleing which I haven't sorted yet, but actually it failed on the brakes.

The report said, brake discs and pads badly worn so no problem there I can replace those easily enough. The problem is that it also says off side front brake pipe and near side rear brake pipe badly corroded. I told the garage that I would put the things right myself but I don't have a clue how to replace the brake pipes.

Can I buy the pipes ready to fit or do I need to buy a length of pipe and bend it to shape and cut it to length?

If I have to bend it myself how do I do this without kinking the pipe when I bend it?

Is this something I should be taking on myself in the first place?

Please help. I don't want to go back and ask them to do it now.  :(
NO ;D ;D ;D

break off you! You know nothing about boxing and you know less than me about cars.  >:(

 ;D ;D ;D
get in the Ring with me then Big Mouth ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

Err, on second thoughts, your taste in boxers is exquisite and you're a first class mechanic.  :-[

But you still can't spell tyre.  :P
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« Reply #7 on: 06 December 2007, 19:04:24 »

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Bad news for me. The wifes 1998 Astra G failed the MOT test today. I was afraid it might fail on the emissions, given the rough idleing which I haven't sorted yet, but actually it failed on the brakes.

The report said, brake discs and pads badly worn so no problem there I can replace those easily enough. The problem is that it also says off side front brake pipe and near side rear brake pipe badly corroded. I told the garage that I would put the things right myself but I don't have a clue how to replace the brake pipes.

Can I buy the pipes ready to fit or do I need to buy a length of pipe and bend it to shape and cut it to length?

If I have to bend it myself how do I do this without kinking the pipe when I bend it?

Is this something I should be taking on myself in the first place?

Please help. I don't want to go back and ask them to do it now.  :(
NO ;D ;D ;D

break off you! You know nothing about boxing and you know less than me about cars.  >:(

 ;D ;D ;D
get in the Ring with me then Big Mouth ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D







AND.....................as for the cars i do know more about them than you..............

1. I fill up all by myself
2. I have checked the oil before in my life
3. I have changed a tire
4. I lock and unlock my car door all the time (with the FOB)

So there :P :P :P :P :P :P

I know how to start mine  :y ;D
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Re: Wife's Car Failed MOT. Help Please
« Reply #8 on: 06 December 2007, 19:05:27 »

Shouldn't be too difficult if you can get replacement pipes, just give yourself plenty of time but you will have to bleed system after to rid it of all the air  :y
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« Reply #9 on: 06 December 2007, 19:18:04 »

You can make brake pipes yourself, they are not difficult with the kits available. Bending pipe is easy provided you take it easy and have large bends, not sharp 90deg. One advantage is you can get pipe with copper in it, which lasts a very long time (the life of the car), better than the steel pipe replacements. Also a smear of grease on the bleed nipples and fixing threads will help if they have to be removed again. Bleeding is easy if you get a pressure bleeding kit. This uses the spare wheel to pressurise the system, so no chance of getting air in. Mind you if the car has ABS, I think you have to bleed in a certain sequence to avoid upsetting the modulator (?). Potentially your worst problem will be undoing the old pipe fixings and bleed nipples, as these tend to be corroded in, and if you haven't got a good ring spanner over the fixings the corners will get rounded. Sometimes easier to cut the pipe and fit a ring spanner onto the old fixing rather than struggle with a open ended. A good soak in WD40 helps.
Best of luck  :y

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Bad news for me. The wifes 1998 Astra G failed the MOT test today. I was afraid it might fail on the emissions, given the rough idleing which I haven't sorted yet, but actually it failed on the brakes.

The report said, brake discs and pads badly worn so no problem there I can replace those easily enough. The problem is that it also says off side front brake pipe and near side rear brake pipe badly corroded. I told the garage that I would put the things right myself but I don't have a clue how to replace the brake pipes.

Can I buy the pipes ready to fit or do I need to buy a length of pipe and bend it to shape and cut it to length?

If I have to bend it myself how do I do this without kinking the pipe when I bend it?

Is this something I should be taking on myself in the first place?

Please help. I don't want to go back and ask them to do it now.  :(
NO ;D ;D ;D

break off you! You know nothing about boxing and you know less than me about cars.  >:(

 ;D ;D ;D
get in the Ring with me then Big Mouth ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D







AND.....................as for the cars i do know more about them than you..............

1. I fill up all by myself
2. I have checked the oil before in my life
3. I have changed a tire
4. I lock and unlock my car door all the time (with the FOB)

So there :P :P :P :P :P :P

I know how to start mine
:y ;D
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« Reply #11 on: 06 December 2007, 20:13:55 »

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...... Sometimes easier to cut the pipe and fit a ring spanner onto the old fixing rather than struggle with a open ended. A good soak in WD40 helps.
Best of luck  :y

Ken

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« Reply #12 on: 06 December 2007, 20:31:55 »

Thanks for the help so far fellas. Are the metal brake pipes from the reservoir in one piece or are they joined somewhere in between?

Presumably they have to be replaced in one piece. Is changing a rear brake pipe a seriously tricky job? I would imagine that once disconnected from reservoir and the wheel that they just clip to the underside of the car?

I haven't had a chance to get under the car for a look as it was dark when I got home from work. I have a day off tomorrow when I could do the job but would like an idea of whether I really ought to be taking this on at all.

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« Reply #13 on: 06 December 2007, 21:29:27 »

Provided you don't a face full of brake fluid when under the car no real problem. As I said there is some balancing device in the Omega system that may get upset, but its not really a prob. I don't know the setup on the astra, so it may be simpler. Trouble is fluid will start to leak out when you undo a pipe, so a method of blocking it is helpful. This is not really a problem, plus with a pressure bleeding kit you are virtually garanteed to get all air out. It also easy to change the whole system brake fluid, which is recommended every couple of years. There is a bleeding sequence recommended, but best to refer to the Haynes manual for the details. (sometimes its useful!)

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« Reply #14 on: 06 December 2007, 21:34:45 »

Ah, rear brake pipe. This will probably join onto a flexible pipe at some point. Sometimes the joint is stuck, its as easy just to change the flexible section as well. The worst is getting the damn things out the caliper. A good look first to see exactly what he has marked, then plan your campaign.  :y

That chap Crazydad can prob help, he seems to know a lot about cars  ;D ;D ;D

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