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Weird idle problem just flared up.
« on: 18 September 2009, 08:02:16 »

I'm still having a few issues but i'll start with this one as its annoying the shizzle out of me! hehe

Started having a few idles problems, really rough and wouldnt idle when first started. I have 3 ICV to choose from and it just so happens that the polished one i got give out the best constant idle but the problem with it not idling when first started is still around! If fires up first turn, tries to tickover but its too low and just dies.
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #1 on: 18 September 2009, 09:09:58 »

Is the idle constant, or is it hunting?

Additionally, is the CTS providing back a valid signal?
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #2 on: 18 September 2009, 09:10:00 »

Can you post up what year your car is please and also what engine it has.
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #3 on: 18 September 2009, 10:06:28 »

Sorry, its a 1994 X30XE!

The idle is constant now i have changed the ICV after its initial starting problem & the CTS was changed 1-2 months previous. How do i test the CTS?
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #4 on: 18 September 2009, 13:24:07 »

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Sorry, its a 1994 X30XE!

The idle is constant now i have changed the ICV after its initial starting problem & the CTS was changed 1-2 months previous. How do i test the CTS?
lol, back to live data saga again ;D
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #5 on: 18 September 2009, 16:37:16 »

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Sorry, its a 1994 X30XE!

The idle is constant now i have changed the ICV after its initial starting problem & the CTS was changed 1-2 months previous. How do i test the CTS?
lol, back to live data saga again ;D

Bloody hell fire! hehe

Im going to have to bite the bullet and bring it to someone who knows what they are doing with Tech2. You up and running again mate?
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« Reply #6 on: 18 September 2009, 17:06:58 »

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Sorry, its a 1994 X30XE!

The idle is constant now i have changed the ICV after its initial starting problem & the CTS was changed 1-2 months previous. How do i test the CTS?
lol, back to live data saga again ;D

Bloody hell fire! hehe

Im going to have to bite the bullet and bring it to someone who knows what they are doing with Tech2. You up and running again mate?
Yeah, as long as you have the 16 pin diag socket, not 10 pin one
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #7 on: 18 September 2009, 20:09:01 »

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Yeah, as long as you have the 16 pin diag socket, not 10 pin one

I have the converter ;)
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #8 on: 18 September 2009, 23:59:01 »

Hi I would have a look at the ide valve as some times they get cloged up, best way to clean it is with some vinigar and hot water leave it for an hour then wash out ad dry it, worked on all the 1z ive done, not harmfull and renews the rubbers. :y :y
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #9 on: 27 September 2009, 16:28:07 »

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Hi I would have a look at the ide valve as some times they get cloged up, best way to clean it is with some vinigar and hot water leave it for an hour then wash out ad dry it, worked on all the 1z ive done, not harmfull and renews the rubbers. :y :y

could you please tell me where on my 2.5 v6 it is  :-[ as im trying to get mine to idle without any success :'(
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #10 on: 27 September 2009, 17:10:46 »

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Hi I would have a look at the ide valve as some times they get cloged up, best way to clean it is with some vinigar and hot water leave it for an hour then wash out ad dry it, worked on all the 1z ive done, not harmfull and renews the rubbers. :y :y

could you please tell me where on my 2.5 v6 it is  :-[ as im trying to get mine to idle without any success :'(
As you look at the engine, its to the right of the plenum which is the big silver bit with eco tech printed on it). Icv plugs in the side of it, over the cable tray with a rubber feed pipe from the air inlet. It is silver aluminium  and about the size of a mustard pot.(English, not that French muck) with an electrical plug on the back.

Remove clean/ soak in carb cleaner and  lube with a light oil. But mine took 3 or 4 soakings before it settled down. Also worth paper clipping to see if any fault codes stored.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #11 on: 27 September 2009, 17:21:55 »

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Hi I would have a look at the ide valve as some times they get cloged up, best way to clean it is with some vinigar and hot water leave it for an hour then wash out ad dry it, worked on all the 1z ive done, not harmfull and renews the rubbers. :y :y

could you please tell me where on my 2.5 v6 it is  :-[ as im trying to get mine to idle without any success :'(
As you look at the engine, its to the right of the plenum which is the big silver bit with eco tech printed on it). Icv plugs in the side of it, over the cable tray with a rubber feed pipe from the air inlet. It is silver aluminium  and about the size of a mustard pot.(English, not that French muck) with an electrical plug on the back.

Remove clean/ soak in carb cleaner and  lube with a light oil. But mine took 3 or 4 soakings before it settled down. Also worth paper clipping to see if any fault codes stored.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1189022687
Hth


Thanks very much, I will have another go at in the morning. We only seemed to clean the outer edge of it the other day so I will have another go at it and pour the suggested cleaner into it.

Got a lad coming around with his machine tomorrow night so Im hopeing for a better  cause of thr prob as I know I will bugger something else up if I tried the pctest :-?
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« Reply #12 on: 27 September 2009, 17:54:16 »

its off and the inside of it is now in soak....... silly question the outside ( hose connection bit) is clear and i can blow through it but there seems to be a shutter value inside it thats only part open..... is this correct and could the blockage be deep inside it???
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #13 on: 27 September 2009, 23:30:25 »

it has to move check that it can move, give it a good clean, but dry it out b4 you put it in again, it should be open think it 0.5mm, but when engine is in idel, it try to close it some the valve move in and out and keeps engine running.
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Re: Weird idle problem just flared up.
« Reply #14 on: 28 September 2009, 01:13:44 »

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its off and the inside of it is now in soak....... silly question the outside ( hose connection bit) is clear and i can blow through it but there seems to be a shutter value inside it thats only part open..... is this correct and could the blockage be deep inside it???
in the idle valve itself there is a shutter valve, yes. That valve is what adjusts the tick over via the signal through the electrical plug. from memory mine used to sit about a mill open  :-/. Dont be tempted to use a screw driver to wedge it open and see if its free like i did. I managaed to chip the leading edge making it stick open, then had to find a way of fileing it down to get to move freely. :(

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