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[chrali]

Hi Chaps,

Just sold my petrol monty as I couldnt stomach the cost of fuel and I'm using the wifes tdi Rover 620 which does 50mpg even when driven briskly, its quite heavy and solid, so can you guys convince me why I should get an Omega diesel 2.5? I know petrols are cheap, but I must be a masochist ( spelt wrong probably ) as I like the way a tdi drives.

I like Omegas and consider myself a proper driver so like the idea of a 6 cylinder, manual, rear wheel drive and more power, but to be honest the Rover does a good job.

I dont like to Omegas fuel consumption compared to the Rover and perhaps the build quality is more suspect then the Honda derived Rover.

I dont really have any complaints about the Rover at all, even when it comes to ride comfort and handling, but I've always had a soft spot for Omegas.

Convince me to do the right thing ..  

I'd welcome any feedback, especially from people who've had both.  

[Martin_1962]

Want you want is a 2.5 or 2.6V6 they are cheaper than the diseasels and a lot better to drive.



Then read this thread

[Baron Von Spongebob]

Hi Chaps,

Just sold my petrol monty as I couldnt stomach the cost of fuel and I'm using the wifes tdi Rover 620 which does 50mpg even when driven briskly, its quite heavy and solid, so can you guys convince me why I should get an Omega diesel 2.5? I know petrols are cheap, but I must be a masochist ( spelt wrong probably ) as I like the way a tdi drives.

I like Omegas and consider myself a proper driver so like the idea of a 6 cylinder, manual, rear wheel drive and more power, but to be honest the Rover does a good job.

I dont like to Omegas fuel consumption compared to the Rover and perhaps the build quality is more suspect then the Honda derived Rover.

I dont really have any complaints about the Rover at all, even when it comes to ride comfort and handling, but I've always had a soft spot for Omegas.

Convince me to do the right thing ..  

I'd welcome any feedback, especially from people who've had both.  

Buy an Omega and sell me the Rover cheap  

[Crazydad]

the only advice i can give you is :

1. donīt sell the Rover to Spongebob.
2.Dont listen too STMO123.
3. Donīt let Loo-Knee get a picture of you.
4. Donīt let Mikedundee talk you into wearing Pink Dresses.

[mantahatch]

Hi Chaps,

Just sold my petrol monty as I couldnt stomach the cost of fuel and I'm using the wifes tdi Rover 620 which does 50mpg even when driven briskly, its quite heavy and solid, so can you guys convince me why I should get an Omega diesel 2.5? I know petrols are cheap, but I must be a masochist ( spelt wrong probably ) as I like the way a tdi drives.

I like Omegas and consider myself a proper driver so like the idea of a 6 cylinder, manual, rear wheel drive and more power, but to be honest the Rover does a good job.

I dont like to Omegas fuel consumption compared to the Rover and perhaps the build quality is more suspect then the Honda derived Rover.

I dont really have any complaints about the Rover at all, even when it comes to ride comfort and handling, but I've always had a soft spot for Omegas.

Convince me to do the right thing ..  

I'd welcome any feedback, especially from people who've had both.  

Hi
I can only advise you of my situation, I drive a 2.5 V6 beacause I like it and only do about 4000 miles a year so cost of fuel is reasonable, now I could have bought a diesel or super mini and got better fuel consumption, but the cost to buy a diesel car or super mini is so high compared to what a V6 costs so I thought I would have the car I want with all the toys at a silly cheap price rather than a very expensive (to buy) car with no toys that I don't really want.
In the end it is up to you to decide whats best for you and your situation. Yes if I where a millionare I would drive an Aston Martin. But I am just a regular joe so my choice is bit restricted. So I have gone for the best rear wheel drive car at the least money to buy, and the cheapest on spare parts but costs a bit more on fuel.
Maybe if I was doing many more miles per year it would be different.

HTH

Mike

[Tony H]

Hi Chaps,

Just sold my petrol monty as I couldnt stomach the cost of fuel and I'm using the wifes tdi Rover 620 which does 50mpg even when driven briskly, its quite heavy and solid, so can you guys convince me why I should get an Omega diesel 2.5? I know petrols are cheap, but I must be a masochist ( spelt wrong probably ) as I like the way a tdi drives.

I like Omegas and consider myself a proper driver so like the idea of a 6 cylinder, manual, rear wheel drive and more power, but to be honest the Rover does a good job.

I dont like to Omegas fuel consumption compared to the Rover and perhaps the build quality is more suspect then the Honda derived Rover.

I dont really have any complaints about the Rover at all, even when it comes to ride comfort and handling, but I've always had a soft spot for Omegas.

Convince me to do the right thing ..  

I'd welcome any feedback, especially from people who've had both.  

Hi
I can only advise you of my situation, I drive a 2.5 V6 beacause I like it and only do about 4000 miles a year so cost of fuel is reasonable, now I could have bought a diesel or super mini and got better fuel consumption, but the cost to buy a diesel car or super mini is so high compared to what a V6 costs so I thought I would have the car I want with all the toys at a silly cheap price rather than a very expensive (to buy) car with no toys that I don't really want.
In the end it is up to you to decide whats best for you and your situation. Yes if I where a millionare I would drive an Aston Martin. But I am just a regular joe so my choice is bit restricted. So I have gone for the best rear wheel drive car at the least money to buy, and the cheapest on spare parts but costs a bit more on fuel.
Maybe if I was doing many more miles per year it would be different.

HTH

Mike

Good argument

[damon80]

All I can say is out of my 3.2V6 Manual (yes, ex plod), I get between 30 and 34mpg (mixture between m-way driving and city-centre).  

And I can also say that at speed's over 20mph I can sink it into 5th and it pulls.  And cruising at 70mph it's doing 1,500 rpm.  

I used to have a Jeep diesel, which used to do about 35mpg on a run, but that was at a steady 55mph on a motorway.

So, from 1st hand experience, I know which motor has got the most grunt.  And I know which is the most economical on a run.  And I know which is the quietest.  Needless to say, I ain't talking about the Jeep...

With the way diesel is priced compared to petrol these days (tonight at my local filling station, it's 100.9p for petrol, compared to 106.9p for diesel), I just can't see the benefits for running an oil-burner, unless it's running on chip fat... but that's just my opinion

[theowletman]

When compared to a smaller 4 cylinder diesel engine the BMW unit in the Omega will always be thirstier, both are good engines, the Omega 2.5 being a lot more powerful. Depends what you need the car for, Omega better at towing and cruising long distances, Rover more economical. The 2.0 4 cylinder diesel in the Rover is actually remarkably similar to the Nissan unit, 2 drive belts. We have had both cars with over 200k on them and both were OK. Omega gets my vote as it is more comfortable and Vauxhall genuine parts are still available. Rover genuine parts are in short supply, body parts in particular, so don't have a bump, we have insurance assessors writing low mileage 02 / 52 plate Rovers off due to non-availability of body parts.

[Turk]

I've had two 2.5 Tubby Denzils.  My 1st one was an auto and gave an average of 30-32mpg (50% Town - 50% A Road).
My current Tubby Denzil is a manual and I get 40-43mpg on a 50/50 run and I've done two runs from South West Wales to Newcastle and I got 51mpg with the cruise set at 75mph.
Anything below a CDX spec will not have cruise control, but it's just a case of buying an indicator stalk with cruise control(about Ģ30)...5 mins work to swap it over and yer away. No need for any Tech2 work as all the 2.5td's are cruise enabled.
Get it chipped or add a Tunit box (15 mins work) and it'll knock it up by about 30bhp. Don't boost up the bhp if you get an automatic. The std autobox is not up to handling any extra ponies.
Would I get another 2.5td ? Well, my current one has 90k on the clock and seeing as my 1st one has 225k on the clock and the motor still starts 1st time and runs fine so I'm ok for a while but yes, I'd have another !!        

[TheBoy]

50mpg out of a 620.  You're not very heaviy footed then

I struggled to get 50mpg out of a much lighter 420.


40+mpg is acheivable from 2.5TD if you don't do much city driving, and its a manual.

[Turk]

I was amazed (very pleasantly !!) at the difference between the auto and the manual.  The lowest I've seen is about 38mpg on a leadfooted 50/50 run. I seldom do the longer runs so I usually get the low 40's.
That's not boosting the figures either.
If anything the long run from Newcastle was with totally knackered wishbones and a shot D.M.F...and...er. under-inflated tyres (Doh!).
For a big ol' barge I think the Appetite for Denzil is excellent.
I tend to get up the gears as quickly as possible and stay in top as much as I can without letting the engine labour. I've noticed there is very little torque below 1200 rpm.
Are these figures unusual for the 2.5td ?

[chrali]

50mpg out of a 620.  You're not very heaviy footed then

I struggled to get 50mpg out of a much lighter 420.


40+mpg is acheivable from 2.5TD if you don't do much city driving, and its a manual.

Actually blt along at 60-80mph. My drive to work is 20 miles of dual carriage way so the best possible mpg is achievable.

[chrali]

Hi Chaps,

Just sold my petrol monty as I couldnt stomach the cost of fuel and I'm using the wifes tdi Rover 620 which does 50mpg even when driven briskly, its quite heavy and solid, so can you guys convince me why I should get an Omega diesel 2.5? I know petrols are cheap, but I must be a masochist ( spelt wrong probably ) as I like the way a tdi drives.

I like Omegas and consider myself a proper driver so like the idea of a 6 cylinder, manual, rear wheel drive and more power, but to be honest the Rover does a good job.

I dont like to Omegas fuel consumption compared to the Rover and perhaps the build quality is more suspect then the Honda derived Rover.

I dont really have any complaints about the Rover at all, even when it comes to ride comfort and handling, but I've always had a soft spot for Omegas.

Convince me to do the right thing ..  

I'd welcome any feedback, especially from people who've had both.  

Hi
I can only advise you of my situation, I drive a 2.5 V6 beacause I like it and only do about 4000 miles a year so cost of fuel is reasonable, now I could have bought a diesel or super mini and got better fuel consumption, but the cost to buy a diesel car or super mini is so high compared to what a V6 costs so I thought I would have the car I want with all the toys at a silly cheap price rather than a very expensive (to buy) car with no toys that I don't really want.
In the end it is up to you to decide whats best for you and your situation. Yes if I where a millionare I would drive an Aston Martin. But I am just a regular joe so my choice is bit restricted. So I have gone for the best rear wheel drive car at the least money to buy, and the cheapest on spare parts but costs a bit more on fuel.
Maybe if I was doing many more miles per year it would be different.

HTH

Mike

Yeah thats what I usually do, hence the monty was the last in a lonnnnnnnnnnng line of heap to buy but the national debt of liberia to run. I drive 1500 to 2500 miles a month, so I've finally bit the sensible bullet regarding a nice cheap pence per mile.

[TheBoy]

50mpg out of a 620.  You're not very heaviy footed then

I struggled to get 50mpg out of a much lighter 420.


40+mpg is acheivable from 2.5TD if you don't do much city driving, and its a manual.

Actually blt along at 60-80mph. My drive to work is 20 miles of dual carriage way so the best possible mpg is achievable.

I reckon I get high 40s from my 2.5TD auto at a steady 80mph.  Round town, it drops dramatically, not helped by autobox...

[IrmscherKris]

I get 26-30 absolute MAX out of my TD auto... Hence the reason I'm putting a 'real' gearbox in it ASAP  
It does have a dragon performance box on it though.... Doesn't half shift though!