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[ryan2.2]

last time i bump started it by rolling it down a hill just spoke to DAZ he thinks i need to find sumone near me to wipe the codes off my car and read what is wrong is there anyone near Chadderton just out side Manchester who has a code reader??

[ryan2.2]

the leads are heavy duty 1s she has a 1.1 saxo left it ticking over for bout 10mins and it didnt do anything

[tunnie]

the leads are heavy duty 1s she has a 1.1 saxo left it ticking over for bout 10mins and it didnt do anything

10 minutes would do nothing to a flat battery, it needs a trickle charge for about 12 hours to get some power in it. A 1.1 Saxo is really going to struggle to jump something as big as the Omega.

I jump started Jimbobs 2.2 at the lakes few years back with a 3.0 24v Senator, that had to be revved to about 3k rpm to give it enough power to start, and that battery still had a fair bit of power left in it.

If you started it fine before, it really does suggest a dead battery.

[Andy H]

the leads are heavy duty 1s she has a 1.1 saxo left it ticking over for bout 10mins and it didnt do anything

Tick over won't do much. The output of an alternator is tiny at tick over but is much greater at fast idle. You need to get some charge into your battery because jump leads aren't going to shift the 150 amps that the starter wants.

Did you hear any relays clicking when you tried to start?

[ryan2.2]

so i need a bigger car to help start it or a new battery? even tho i have a fault code saying cam sonsor?

[Andy H]

so i need a bigger car to help start it or a new battery? even tho i have a fault code saying cam sonsor?

No.
Firstly you need to find out why the engine isn't turning over.
- You might have a flat battery. If it is a flat battery you need to get some charge into it. The jump leads and your GF's clit will do that for you but it will take longer than a bigger car.
- The battery might have died totally in which case you won'y be able to get any charge into it.
- The starter might developed a fault.
- Some other electrical malady might be interrupting the starter circuit.

Once you have got the engine turning over again you will probably still have a cam sensor fault and so should fit a new one.

Do you hear any clicking from the starter when you turn the key?

[ryan2.2]

bought a volt meter i am getting 12.3 from the battery so dont think its that

[Andy H]

Have a read of this maintenance guide http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1225724099

The table at the bottom seems to show 12.3 volts as about 60% charged.

You still haven't answered my question as to whether you can hear any clicking when you turn the key.

[ryan2.2]

Hi guys I called out the AA who got the car started whoo!!!! they say its a starter motor relay does that sound righ??  Andy there is no clicking

[Andy H]

Hi guys I called out the AA who got the car started whoo!!!! they say its a starter motor relay does that sound righ??  Andy there is no clicking

It is the starter relay that makes the clicking noise (when its working)

[ryan2.2]

so that sounds like it then? would sum were like halfords have 1 or would it be a vauxhal only part?

[Andy H]

Did you see what he did to get it started?

If you are going to fix this electrical problem yourself you are going to have to be methodical. If the relay isn't operating then it could be a faulty relay or it could be something else in the electrical circuit. Don't assume anything unless you have checked it yourself & don't assume that something that was OK yesterday is still OK today.

[ryan2.2]

what he did was he had a tool which put power to the starter motor st8 from my battery then the car started as he did that

[Andy H]

Excellent, so we know that the starter works when 12v gets to the small terminal on the starter.
We also know that the starter relay doesn't click when you turn the key.
The relay is the most likely culprit but the ignition switch can fail sometimes.
I think the relay is up behind the glove box (but I am not certain). Hopefully one of the moderators can tell us where it is and what colour.
The big relays can be surprisingly expensive new, so I would want to test it before condemning it.

[ryan2.2]

great i will try and find it in the morning and see what happans