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richard

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Poor starting and idle 2.2 petrol /LPG
« on: 30 November 2009, 15:38:42 »

Gents and Gals

Bit of background.
2.2 petrol /lpg  2003 had it 3 years  bought at 70000 now 109000.
Runs a dream on lpg but has to start on petrol.
When starts from cold it ticks over at about 1200 rpm but very lumpy, if you touch the gas it normally dies.
With a lot of TLC I can make it run long enough for the gas to kick in then all ok.
My deductions are that as its ok on lpg then the ignition system must be ok as must the idle control valve.
If i switch to petrol when on the move it splutters a bit a low revs and feels like i am towing a tank.
The petrol itself is newish it had a new cam sensor a while ago and a new dis pack.

When it runs on petrol it feels like the ignition timing is out.

Any help gratefully accepted and will answer any questions. :y
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Re: Poor starting and idle 2.2 petrol /LPG
« Reply #1 on: 30 November 2009, 16:02:43 »

Hi Richard, you need to get the codes read as it could be 2 or 3 different things causing this. Where abouts are you?
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Re: Poor starting and idle 2.2 petrol /LPG
« Reply #2 on: 30 November 2009, 17:01:38 »

near heathrow

can get code read  its normally fuel trim bank 2   cannot remember the code

not showing a code at moment !
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Re: Poor starting and idle 2.2 petrol /LPG
« Reply #3 on: 30 November 2009, 19:13:37 »

Mine used to run like that on occasion, after changing the MAF and the CAT, it runs like a new car
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Re: Poor starting and idle 2.2 petrol /LPG
« Reply #4 on: 30 November 2009, 19:18:26 »

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Mine used to run like that on occasion, after changing the MAF and the CAT, it runs like a new car

I must say that was one of my first thoughts.
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Re: Poor starting and idle 2.2 petrol /LPG
« Reply #5 on: 30 November 2009, 23:48:39 »

It it runs OK on LPG my thoughts are that either the petrol system isn't 100% (clogged injectors or fuel filter, pump, etc) or that the LPG system isn't accurately set up so it has caused a large fuel trim to build up, which then gives problems when run on petrol.

If you can get over to Hampshire I would be happy to put the Tech 2 on it and see what's going on.

Do you know what type of LPG ECU is fitted? Just thinking if it needs adjustment the software + cable will be required.

Kevin
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Re: Poor starting and idle 2.2 petrol /LPG
« Reply #6 on: 04 December 2009, 12:38:51 »

Hi Kevin

I would love someone who knows what they are doing to have a look at it.

I can get about with a bit of planning as I work from home and can be flexible.
Anytime to suit you really.

Let me know
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Re: Poor starting and idle 2.2 petrol /LPG
« Reply #7 on: 04 December 2009, 12:45:43 »

Hi Kevin

I would love someone who knows what they are doing to have a look at it.

I can get about with a bit of planning as I work from home and can be flexible.
Anytime to suit you really.

Let me know
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Re: Poor starting and idle 2.2 petrol /LPG
« Reply #8 on: 04 December 2009, 12:47:50 »

sorry mate its a Beacon Pharos LPG

Thats what it says on the original invoice
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