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[leeboy]

Buying an engine outta an ex police car as mine is dead. Would it be worth getting the chipped brain also? (free)
If so will keys and locks iginition need changed aswell??
Thanks in advance.

[tunnie]

Contrary to popular belief, Police Omega's are not chipped, or have any ECU 'upgrades'

All Police Omegas had were stronger springs to cope with weight of gear, bigger alternator to run all the gadgets, and a different ratio diff to aid 0-60, but at the expense of top end speed.

[Welung666]

You don't need the keys, ignition etc., just the chips out of the key, the immob block on the ignition barrel and the main ECU. I agree with Tunnie, Ex-plods weren't chipped or higher powered, standard V6 motor.

[leeboy]

I thought they were chipped tbh.
May be silly but this is in N.Ireland. Would they be chipped here and not mainland maybe? Sorry if its a silly question but wanna make sure coz if its worth it i will put it in but if no difference i wont bother.

[tunnie]

I thought they were chipped tbh.
May be silly but this is in N.Ireland. Would they be chipped here and not mainland maybe? Sorry if its a silly question but wanna make sure coz if its worth it i will put it in but if no difference i wont bother.

Doubt it, standard V6 lump will be in there

[Welung666]

Same spec for NI as here AFAIK

[Turk]

Courtney sorted out the suspension on a few Migs for the Ulster Constabulary, but that's about it as far as tricked up goes.   

[Bionic]

Security - If you are changing the locks you will need the main ECU, the keyfobs and tiny transducer chips from them  and the immobiliser module from the steering column. They all must match!
Sorry to be blunt but this type of question baffles me because it is so senseless. Whatever happened to the old 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' ideal?
Where do people get the idea from that ex police vehicles are somehow far superior in performance; Its ridiculous. They are trained to be far better drivers and are taught many skills in that arena though.
As for the Omegas they used, and maybe some are still in use, they were/are the bog standard V6 3.0 litre, 5 speed manual saloon and estates. The only differences are that the suspension was uprated to cope with the heavier loads of the masses of equipment thay had to carry 24/7, they tended to be manual 5 speed boxed, some tended to have a modified differential to aid with acceleration which gave them blistering 0-60 times but at the cost of a big drop in top speed (the type used depended on its role in the force) and they also had a larger alternator and a suplementary heating system. The faster acceleration model also suffered greatly reduced mpg too.
Being ex plod they also have a lot more holes, which with luck will have been sealed and grommetted, and some extranaeous redundant wiring from their gadgets. Take also into consideration that they are thrashed during their working life!
What is wrong with the power you have as standard if it is properly maintained and set up? Are you a boy racer wannabe or something?
Best advice is to leave it be, all the advice you have had from everyone is correct!
There is a commercially available chip, sold on Ebay which you can fit at your own risk that will enhance bhp to some degree. I will not list the seller so please do not ask. Boy racers buy them. Quite why this is needed in a high power lump to begin with defies logic and all common sense!
I suppose that you will disregard all sound advice and go for it anyway. I, pretty much like the others I think, hope your driving ability will be up to the standard required to ensure the safety of all others while you are demonstrating your 'skill'. Just make certain it stays as 'skill' and not the shortened version 'kill'.
Final point - don't forget to tell your insurance so they can sting you for a hell of a lot more, and void it should you opt not to inform them and are subsequently caught out.
GudLuk, you will probably need it.

[pedroMV6]

Security - If you are changing the locks you will need the main ECU, the keyfobs and tiny transducer chips from them  and the immobiliser module from the steering column. They all must match!
Sorry to be blunt but this type of question baffles me because it is so senseless. Whatever happened to the old 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' ideal?
Where do people get the idea from that ex police vehicles are somehow far superior in performance; Its ridiculous. They are trained to be far better drivers and are taught many skills in that arena though.
As for the Omegas they used, and maybe some are still in use, they were/are the bog standard V6 3.0 litre, 5 speed manual saloon and estates. The only differences are that the suspension was uprated to cope with the heavier loads of the masses of equipment thay had to carry 24/7, they tended to be manual 5 speed boxed, some tended to have a modified differential to aid with acceleration which gave them blistering 0-60 times but at the cost of a big drop in top speed (the type used depended on its role in the force) and they also had a larger alternator and a suplementary heating system. The faster acceleration model also suffered greatly reduced mpg too.
Being ex plod they also have a lot more holes, which with luck will have been sealed and grommetted, and some extranaeous redundant wiring from their gadgets. Take also into consideration that they are thrashed during their working life!
What is wrong with the power you have as standard if it is properly maintained and set up? Are you a boy racer wannabe or something?
Best advice is to leave it be, all the advice you have had from everyone is correct!
There is a commercially available chip, sold on Ebay which you can fit at your own risk that will enhance bhp to some degree. I will not list the seller so please do not ask. Boy racers buy them. Quite why this is needed in a high power lump to begin with defies logic and all common sense!
I suppose that you will disregard all sound advice and go for it anyway. I, pretty much like the others I think, hope your driving ability will be up to the standard required to ensure the safety of all others while you are demonstrating your 'skill'. Just make certain it stays as 'skill' and not the shortened version 'kill'.
Final point - don't forget to tell your insurance so they can sting you for a hell of a lot more, and void it should you opt not to inform them and are subsequently caught out.
GudLuk, you will probably need it.

You on drugs with a reply like that?
The guy was asking a question - not wishing to be informed that you think he's sub-human!

No wonder people leave this forum!

[TheBoy]

Ex-plod may have better performance, this is due to lower diff ratio.

Thus hard to compare side by side.  However, using a standard performance chip in an ex-plod gives a small, but noticible, increase in power, similar to a standard 3.0.  Therefore I assume that the standard plod map is similar to retail map

[leeboy]

Security - If you are changing the locks you will need the main ECU, the keyfobs and tiny transducer chips from them  and the immobiliser module from the steering column. They all must match!
Sorry to be blunt but this type of question baffles me because it is so senseless. Whatever happened to the old 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' ideal?
Where do people get the idea from that ex police vehicles are somehow far superior in performance; Its ridiculous. They are trained to be far better drivers and are taught many skills in that arena though.
As for the Omegas they used, and maybe some are still in use, they were/are the bog standard V6 3.0 litre, 5 speed manual saloon and estates. The only differences are that the suspension was uprated to cope with the heavier loads of the masses of equipment thay had to carry 24/7, they tended to be manual 5 speed boxed, some tended to have a modified differential to aid with acceleration which gave them blistering 0-60 times but at the cost of a big drop in top speed (the type used depended on its role in the force) and they also had a larger alternator and a suplementary heating system. The faster acceleration model also suffered greatly reduced mpg too.
Being ex plod they also have a lot more holes, which with luck will have been sealed and grommetted, and some extranaeous redundant wiring from their gadgets. Take also into consideration that they are thrashed during their working life!
What is wrong with the power you have as standard if it is properly maintained and set up? Are you a boy racer wannabe or something?
Best advice is to leave it be, all the advice you have had from everyone is correct!
There is a commercially available chip, sold on Ebay which you can fit at your own risk that will enhance bhp to some degree. I will not list the seller so please do not ask. Boy racers buy them. Quite why this is needed in a high power lump to begin with defies logic and all common sense!
I suppose that you will disregard all sound advice and go for it anyway. I, pretty much like the others I think, hope your driving ability will be up to the standard required to ensure the safety of all others while you are demonstrating your 'skill'. Just make certain it stays as 'skill' and not the shortened version 'kill'.
Final point - don't forget to tell your insurance so they can sting you for a hell of a lot more, and void it should you opt not to inform them and are subsequently caught out.
GudLuk, you will probably need it.

Jesus christ i only asked a simple question.  :-?
I dont be on this much and will probly be even less if thats the answers im gonna get.

Thank you everyone else for your help. Wont bother with the ecu now.
Cheers

[I_want_an_Omega]

Security - If you are changing the locks you will need the main ECU, the keyfobs and tiny transducer chips from them  and the immobiliser module from the steering column. They all must match!
Sorry to be blunt but this type of question baffles me because it is so senseless. Whatever happened to the old 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' ideal?
Where do people get the idea from that ex police vehicles are somehow far superior in performance; Its ridiculous. They are trained to be far better drivers and are taught many skills in that arena though.
As for the Omegas they used, and maybe some are still in use, they were/are the bog standard V6 3.0 litre, 5 speed manual saloon and estates. The only differences are that the suspension was uprated to cope with the heavier loads of the masses of equipment thay had to carry 24/7, they tended to be manual 5 speed boxed, some tended to have a modified differential to aid with acceleration which gave them blistering 0-60 times but at the cost of a big drop in top speed (the type used depended on its role in the force) and they also had a larger alternator and a suplementary heating system. The faster acceleration model also suffered greatly reduced mpg too.
Being ex plod they also have a lot more holes, which with luck will have been sealed and grommetted, and some extranaeous redundant wiring from their gadgets. Take also into consideration that they are thrashed during their working life!
What is wrong with the power you have as standard if it is properly maintained and set up? Are you a boy racer wannabe or something?
Best advice is to leave it be, all the advice you have had from everyone is correct!
There is a commercially available chip, sold on Ebay which you can fit at your own risk that will enhance bhp to some degree. I will not list the seller so please do not ask. Boy racers buy them. Quite why this is needed in a high power lump to begin with defies logic and all common sense!
I suppose that you will disregard all sound advice and go for it anyway. I, pretty much like the others I think, hope your driving ability will be up to the standard required to ensure the safety of all others while you are demonstrating your 'skill'. Just make certain it stays as 'skill' and not the shortened version 'kill'.
Final point - don't forget to tell your insurance so they can sting you for a hell of a lot more, and void it should you opt not to inform them and are subsequently caught out.
GudLuk, you will probably need it.

Except the autos that is .........

[Kevin Wood]

Security - If you are changing the locks you will need the main ECU, the keyfobs and tiny transducer chips from them  and the immobiliser module from the steering column. They all must match!....

Key fob transmitters are not part of the immobiliser system. It's only the tiny transponder chip in the key itself, which can easily be removed and replaced. No need to change the locks either.

I have to agree that there is little evidence of the police spec. being anything other then standard.

Kevin

[Bionic]

As far I have been able to ascertain the Police did not use Autos at all. The manual version was the only version they bought outright but may have privately hired, as is their method, a few autos at some point for surveillance purposes.
The only differences to the 'public' and 'police' version specs have already been mentioned.
In closing I also stated that they were thrashed! Yep, well they are BUT they are also exceptionally well maintained and given a once over prior to the start of any shift by its allocated driver. No Police vehicle is allowed to leave on duty unless it is fully road legal.

[I_want_an_Omega]

As far I have been able to ascertain the Police did not use Autos at all. The manual version was the only version they bought outright but may have privately hired, as is their method, a few autos at some point for surveillance purposes.
The only differences to the 'public' and 'police' version specs have already been mentioned.
In closing I also stated that they were thrashed! Yep, well they are BUT they are also exceptionally well maintained and given a once over prior to the start of any shift by its allocated driver. No Police vehicle is allowed to leave on duty unless it is fully road legal.

This is incorrect - and IMHO, shows that you haven't looked very hard TBH. If you look in the for sale section you will see an ex-Met vehicle - its an auto. I've been involved with the Police on a professional basis for over 10 years and always take a chance to look at a Mig when I can. It's my view that its about evens between auto and manual. I know its a bit rough and ready - but even if not a 50/50 mix there are a significant % of autos out there.

HTH