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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #15 on: 17 September 2009, 22:04:47 »

I'm watching this cos my power steering pump is leaking from the lower banjo. & it looks like manifold off , alt off, to get at it,
To change my waterpump & stat I just bent the pulley back with a pry bar to let the belt go. Easy. But I have read here that the tensioner could break.
However I would chance it again.
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #16 on: 17 September 2009, 22:50:44 »

It would be alot easier with the alternator of .......couldnt you get a spanner under it to just nip it up ?......only probs with the tensioner is the the plastic eyes in it at each end (can) crush
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #17 on: 17 September 2009, 23:02:57 »

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I've had a manifold on and off many times and only the last time did I need (decide to) get new gaskets. I smear a little oil on the manifold face and that stops them sticking the next time it's removed.
If they do tear or crack, they should be ok to match up and re-use. I'm reasonably confident they'll be ok.
Re-fitting is a case of easy does it wiggling. Don't use excessive force and re-tighten evenly. Don't overtighten or you may crack the inlets. 
Using a dab of grease in the socket will stop the nuts falling out on removal and re-fitting, and the last 3 nuts are best accessed by reaching under the manifold with a spanner. 
Having said that, I think you've done this before, so you probably know the score with removal etc

Is that the manifold or me ;)
All 6 gaskets did tear but think they will be ok. I had to work this afternoon so I have left Syd in bits and will borrow friends x trail again to drive to Yarmouth. Not as comfy as Syd but will get me there and back :y
So belt is still on if any one can shine some light on how I get it off tomorrow :y :y :y
As TB says "if you could take pics, or even video..." ::)
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #18 on: 17 September 2009, 23:28:41 »

Hertfordshire to Yarmouth and back in just over 4 hours not bad :D shame Ive got a numb bum from the X trail :P, i must fix Syd.

I have been taking lots of photos, ready for a step by step guide :y   sorry none of the wiggling ;D ;D ;D
I will give it a go to remove belt in the morning, thanks for the tips :y :y :y :y couldnt do it with out you all :-* :-*
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #19 on: 18 September 2009, 09:14:34 »

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I'm watching this cos my power steering pump is leaking from the lower banjo. & it looks like manifold off , alt off, to get at it,
To change my waterpump & stat I just bent the pulley back with a pry bar to let the belt go. Easy. But I have read here that the tensioner could break.
However I would chance it again.
That is the official way according to BMW, Landrover and GM.  However, seen too many break, and even broken one myself using that method, hence the revised method above (courtesy of Omegatoy), which is a damn sight easier to be honest (although from the description it doesn't sound it)
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #20 on: 18 September 2009, 14:36:49 »

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I'm watching this cos my power steering pump is leaking from the lower banjo. & it looks like manifold off , alt off, to get at it,
To change my waterpump & stat I just bent the pulley back with a pry bar to let the belt go. Easy. But I have read here that the tensioner could break.
However I would chance it again.
That is the official way according to BMW, Landrover and GM.  However, seen too many break, and even broken one myself using that method, hence the revised method above (courtesy of Omegatoy), which is a damn sight easier to be honest (although from the description it doesn't sound it)

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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #21 on: 18 September 2009, 17:47:19 »

Have been at it on and off all day between work :-? I have at last got old one off and out :o lets just say the battery holder looks a bit different now ::) Have got replacement in but not sure how to loosen off belt to get it back on :( I have tried but Ive given up for now. I wasnt sure what the the tensioner was? and whats a mini damper look like? but I think I followed ok as I got it off :y coffee and cake and then will have another go :D
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #22 on: 18 September 2009, 17:57:30 »

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Have been at it on and off all day between work :-? I have at last got old one off and out :o lets just say the battery holder looks a bit different now ::) Have got replacement in but not sure how to loosen off belt to get it back on :( I have tried but Ive given up for now. I wasnt sure what the the tensioner was? and whats a mini damper look like? but I think I followed ok as I got it off :y coffee and cake and then will have another go :D
tensioner is just above/right of waterpump (where the viscous screws on), looks like a 3" shock absorber.  Top is bolted to black metal plate, bottom is connected to a right angled arm, the other end of arm has an idler pulley on it.

If you can post a pic, I can show you :)
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #23 on: 18 September 2009, 18:18:30 »


I think its this? ok blonde question what the fluff is a viscous :-[ I have no idea about engines but at this rate I will do :y
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #24 on: 18 September 2009, 18:19:57 »

and now I know where the waterpump is, Im sure one day I will change that too ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #25 on: 18 September 2009, 18:30:32 »

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I think its this? ok blonde question what the fluff is a viscous :-[ I have no idea about engines but at this rate I will do :y
Thats it :)

Not clear from photo, but see how the top of it is attached to a metal plate - that is the black plate I mentioned before.
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #26 on: 18 September 2009, 18:31:53 »

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and now I know where the waterpump is, Im sure one day I will change that too ;D ;D ;D ;D
On a TD, you will be changing pump at some point ;D
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #27 on: 18 September 2009, 18:47:10 »


I thought that was it but I can not get black plate to move at all :( I took out the bolt in tensioner and got belt back on but now cant get the bolt back in :-? sorry to be a pain :-[ There is a star bolt thingy at the top, do I have to undo that? I have taken out the one at the bottom :-?
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #28 on: 18 September 2009, 19:32:53 »

Remove the star bolt at the top and replace the bottom bolt. Slacken the other bolt to the left of the star bolt. The bracket will now pivot up to allow the star bolt to be re-inserted into the tensioner and into the respective hole in the now raised bracket.

Now either tighten the bolt on the left so that it gives enough resistance to hold the bracket and you should be able to tap the bracket down until the star bolt can be screwed into place. If that isn't working,slacken the bolt slightly again and, using a block of wood or something similar to spread the load of the thin metal bracket, push it down until you can screw the star bolt in.
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Re: Alternator removal/fitting on 2.5td
« Reply #29 on: 18 September 2009, 19:36:52 »


Remove yellow bolt

Loosen blue bolt

Put molegrips on as I've (badly) tried to depict in red

Remove green bolt


Before refitting, rettach you bottom bolt you erroneously removed.


Then press down with molegrips (so plate pivots on blue bolt), then put back in green bolt
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