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[Shackeng]

Stealers are selling Dex V1, in place of Dex 11, power steering fluid for my tractor. Is this OK? :-/

TIA

[KillerWatt]

Dexron VI supercedes previous versions and is fully backward compatible.

[Shackeng]

Dexron VI supercedes previous versions and is fully backward compatible.

Thanks a bunch KW

[djac]

There are some documents on the web that suggest that Dexron VI superceded Dexron III as of 2006 (?) for use as ATF.

http://www.gm.com/experience/technology/gmpowertrain/transmissions/DEXRON_VI_Service_Fill_Release_30NO07.doc

I can't see anything that suggests that it is also now the recommended PSF, although I have heard it said that ATF can be used as PSF.

[KillerWatt]

There are some documents on the web that suggest that Dexron VI superceded Dexron III as of 2006 (?) for use as ATF.

http://www.gm.com/experience/technology/gmpowertrain/transmissions/DEXRON_VI_Service_Fill_Release_30NO07.doc

I can't see anything that suggests that it is also now the recommended PSF, although I have heard it said that ATF can be used as PSF.

It's the same stuff.

Some manufacturers have their own dedicated oil for power steering so you have to ensure you use that fluid, but that is not a problem on the Omega.

[Shackeng]

It was interesting to hear my stealer parts man saying that they don't use GM ATF, but buy in drums of equivalent from Comma. So much for OEM!!!

[VXL V6]

That's because GM ATF (which is made by someone else obviously) is very expensive compared to Comma.

Often the bolt on 'masterfit' type outlets at the side of the dealers will use cheaper alternatives then genuine.

[Shackeng]

That's because GM ATF (which is made by someone else obviously) is very expensive compared to Comma.

Often the bolt on 'masterfit' type outlets at the side of the dealers will use cheaper alternatives then genuine.

This was a VX dealer!!!

[feeutfo]

Just to be clear,

dexron 11 is for pas
dexron 111 is for atf

do NOT mix thier applications,

the above are approved and issue free, the fluids that supereceed these are not proven in the omega so far.

[KillerWatt]

Just to be clear,

dexron 11 is for pas
dexron 111 is for atf

do NOT mix thier applications,

the above are approved and issue free, the fluids that supereceed these are not proven in the omega so far.

There is no problem in mixing if you are putting in an oil that exceeds the minimum spec (eg, putting Dexron III in the PAS that only needs Dexron II), it will however be a problem if you (say) put Dexron II in your gearbox when it needs a minimum of Dexron III.

Dexron VI meets & exceeds the specs of anything before it, and was designed from the off to be fully backward compatible with lesser spec oil.

[feeutfo]

Just to be clear,

dexron 11 is for pas
dexron 111 is for atf

do NOT mix thier applications,

the above are approved and issue free, the fluids that supereceed these are not proven in the omega so far.

There is no problem in mixing if you are putting in an oil that exceeds the minimum spec (eg, putting Dexron III in the PAS that only needs Dexron II), it will however be a problem if you (say) put Dexron II in your gearbox when it needs a minimum of Dexron III.

Dexron VI meets & exceeds the specs of anything before it, and was designed from the off to be fully backward compatible with lesser spec oil.

n

FFS, pas was changes from 3 to 2 due to problems with power steering pipes leaking acvording to info on here i believe. The recomended fluid is issue free why introduce other variables?

[KillerWatt]

Just to be clear,

dexron 11 is for pas
dexron 111 is for atf

do NOT mix thier applications,

the above are approved and issue free, the fluids that supereceed these are not proven in the omega so far.

There is no problem in mixing if you are putting in an oil that exceeds the minimum spec (eg, putting Dexron III in the PAS that only needs Dexron II), it will however be a problem if you (say) put Dexron II in your gearbox when it needs a minimum of Dexron III.

Dexron VI meets & exceeds the specs of anything before it, and was designed from the off to be fully backward compatible with lesser spec oil.

n

FFS, pas was changes from 3 to 2 due to problems with power steering pipes leaking acvording to info on here i believe. The recomended fluid is issue free why introduce other variables?

Was it proven that the use of Dex III was the sole cause?

If so, I'd imagine that opens the floodgates for a lawsuit as GM dropped all licensing for anything other than Dex VI, and now only offer said Dex VI as the alternative.

[feeutfo]

Just to be clear,

dexron 11 is for pas
dexron 111 is for atf

do NOT mix thier applications,

the above are approved and issue free, the fluids that supereceed these are not proven in the omega so far.

There is no problem in mixing if you are putting in an oil that exceeds the minimum spec (eg, putting Dexron III in the PAS that only needs Dexron II), it will however be a problem if you (say) put Dexron II in your gearbox when it needs a minimum of Dexron III.

Dexron VI meets & exceeds the specs of anything before it, and was designed from the off to be fully backward compatible with lesser spec oil.

n

FFS, pas was changes from 3 to 2 due to problems with power steering pipes leaking acvording to info on here i believe. The recomended fluid is issue free why introduce other variables?

Was it proven that the use of Dex III was the sole cause?

If so, I'd imagine that opens the floodgates for a lawsuit as GM dropped all licensing for anything other than Dex VI, and now only offer said Dex VI as the alternative.

one of these days KW you'll allow someone to tell you something...

[tunnie]

Just to be clear,

dexron 11 is for pas
dexron 111 is for atf

do NOT mix thier applications,

the above are approved and issue free, the fluids that supereceed these are not proven in the omega so far.

There is no problem in mixing if you are putting in an oil that exceeds the minimum spec (eg, putting Dexron III in the PAS that only needs Dexron II), it will however be a problem if you (say) put Dexron II in your gearbox when it needs a minimum of Dexron III.

Dexron VI meets & exceeds the specs of anything before it, and was designed from the off to be fully backward compatible with lesser spec oil.

n

FFS, pas was changes from 3 to 2 due to problems with power steering pipes leaking acvording to info on here i believe. The recomended fluid is issue free why introduce other variables?

Was it proven that the use of Dex III was the sole cause?

If so, I'd imagine that opens the floodgates for a lawsuit as GM dropped all licensing for anything other than Dex VI, and now only offer said Dex VI as the alternative.

one of these days KW you'll allow someone to tell you something...

Don't be silly, he is all knowing, and will never be wrong, in anything 

[feeutfo]

mentioned in this link but does not mention the reasons why, cant remember where i gut the leaking pas pipes from but i'm 90% cretain thats why, doesnt really matter and i cant be arsed to find the relevant page. All you need to know is in the link.
I'm sure the op will make up his own mind.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1152655085