Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Please play nicely.  No one wants to listen/read a keyboard warriors rants....

Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Tyres scuffed  (Read 1842 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

bluepoint

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Warrington
  • Posts: 41
    • View Profile
Tyres scuffed
« on: 15 February 2010, 19:05:18 »

Hello, I have had my omega for several years and until recently noticed the car pulling to the right slightly on the m/way. I inspected the tyre and noticed that it was slightly flatter than the rest turned the lock full right hand down and the tyre is badly  scuffed on the inner side showing some of the banding closest to the McPherson strut. I had the geometry checked at a specialist using the hawk eye laser align system and it was found that there was no adjustment needed, I saw this and trust him as he is my mechanic and I smell b/s a mile away ;), so Would a worn wishbone cause this sort of wear but still show nothing on Geo? I am confused... Spending on a new set of 4 tyres is an expense that I didn't want compounded by a faulty suspension. Many thanks for all your advice and help people :y
Logged

Road Hog Mad

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Cheshire
  • Posts: 376
    • View Profile
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #1 on: 15 February 2010, 19:10:59 »

seems a load of omegas I have come across including speaking to traffic cops who use to drive omegas, the shoulder wear seems a problem for most.
Logged

davethediver

  • Omega Knight
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Blackburn, Lancs.
  • Posts: 1376
    • View Profile
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #2 on: 15 February 2010, 19:12:49 »

Tony at WIM sets the cars up to a different spec to the manufacturers suggested and this has cured it for a lot of owners HTH
Logged
“It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them.”
P.A. Caron de Beaumarchais

bluepoint

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Warrington
  • Posts: 41
    • View Profile
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #3 on: 15 February 2010, 19:20:01 »

Tony at where? I'm sorry mate I dont know what wim is . :-?
Logged

Andy B

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Bury Lancs
  • Posts: 39728
    • ML350 TDM SmartRoadster
    • View Profile
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #4 on: 15 February 2010, 19:27:26 »

Quote
Tony at where? I'm sorry mate I dont know what wim is . :-?

He's miles away from us up in this part of the world.
http://www.blackboots.co.uk/blackboots-location.php  :y
Logged

Richard A

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Aldridge, West Midlands
  • Posts: 865
    • View Profile
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #5 on: 15 February 2010, 19:39:55 »

The person on the 'blackboots' ad is Tony, wim is 'Wheels in Motion', money very well spent  :y
regards
Richard a
Logged
richard a

bluepoint

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Warrington
  • Posts: 41
    • View Profile
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #6 on: 15 February 2010, 20:05:48 »

Thanks everyone, so the general synopsis is that its a Geo set up issue?
Logged

Lazydocker

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Woodbridge, Suffolk
  • Posts: 18848
  • Constantly Bullied by a certain Admin
    • View Profile
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #7 on: 15 February 2010, 21:25:05 »

Quote
Thanks everyone, so the general synopsis is that its a Geo set up issue?
It could be a worn suspension part but that should have been picked up when your man checked the geometry ::) ::)

Tony Bones knows his onions and will set the car up within tolerances a thousand times smaller than the Vx recommendations.  :y :y
Logged
Whatever it is... I didn't do it

cem_devecioglu

  • Guest
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #8 on: 15 February 2010, 21:39:10 »

if geometry is ok logic says both tires must have similiar wear (single wishbone change scenario seems odd)

 do something simple and check the front tires clearance to the bumper and rear of wing..

Logged

Andy H

  • Omega Lord
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Auckland
  • Posts: 5532
    • Mazda MPV
    • View Profile
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #9 on: 15 February 2010, 22:25:47 »

The camber on the front wheels of the Omega is adjustable but it seems that few people are aware of it.

I owned my last Omega for 7 years and was always puzzled by why the front wheels appeared to lean inwards at the top and why it chewed the inside edges of the front tyres.

Wear in the wishbone bushes can allow too much camber or the camber can be upset if the struts are dismantled to fit new wisbones.

I think I read somewhere that the optimum camber is -1.10 degrees (but I might be wrong).
Logged
"Deja Moo - The feeling that you've heard this bull somewhere before."

feeutfo

  • Guest
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #10 on: 16 February 2010, 02:50:42 »

1.10 is considered correct, yes. I asked Tony to set base setting to 1.00 for mine as it spends most of its life on the motorway, not noticed an increase in understeer, but then i only get to play on a.couple of corners on the way home.

Trouble is most set up companys go to factory spec. which has enormously wide tolerances. Usual advice is check the car for wishbone bush failure, broken springs, steering idler play, or any other steering or suspension problems, rectify, might be a case for letting the suspension settle if shocks and springs are fitted, then visit wim for set up, then fit new tyres once your happy.

Give Tony a ring, he's a good lad for a chat.
Logged

mudflap

  • Intermediate Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • NW London UK
  • Posts: 353
  • My Green Goddess
    • View Profile
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #11 on: 16 February 2010, 09:26:04 »

I have this kind of wear on my front tyres but put it down to tracking adjustment, Chesham isn't that far from me i could contact WIM  for geometry adjustment when i get my new tyres on. :)

.
« Last Edit: 16 February 2010, 09:29:06 by mudflap »
Logged
If it's got tits or wheels  it's bound to give you trouble   

cem_devecioglu

  • Guest
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #12 on: 16 February 2010, 12:14:26 »

Quote
I have this kind of wear on my front tyres but put it down to tracking adjustment, Chesham isn't that far from me i could contact WIM  for geometry adjustment when i get my new tyres on. :)

.

I will recommend waiting for some period after you have new tires ..as they will be out of balance very quickly.. (I discovered that the soap they used around the tire when fittting causes the tire to change position  :-/)
Logged

feeutfo

  • Guest
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #13 on: 16 February 2010, 12:29:52 »

Quote
Quote
I have this kind of wear on my front tyres but put it down to tracking adjustment, Chesham isn't that far from me i could contact WIM  for geometry adjustment when i get my new tyres on. :)

.

I will recommend waiting for some period after you have new tires ..as they will be out of balance very quickly.. (I discovered that the soap they used around the tire when fittting causes the tire to change position  :-/)

they do say to take it easy on new tyres for at least 100 miles.
Logged

megaomega123

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • 0
  • Posts: 915
    • View Profile
Re: Tyres scuffed
« Reply #14 on: 16 February 2010, 12:50:18 »

I would suggest camber as the culprit. My camber is out and munches away nicely on the inside edge. Out by about 1 degree and affects about 1" of the tyre.
Logged
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ.
Pages: [1] 2  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.021 seconds with 18 queries.