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brake pads
« on: 11 March 2010, 21:58:47 »
First of all, I'm no expert. I bought some front brake pads today that came with 4 pads and 2 bolts. when i went to fit them i found that i had to take 2 bolts off each caliper. Should i have had 4 bolts with the disks, or am i missing somthing
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #1 on: 11 March 2010, 22:01:41 »
For some unknown reason Vx always do this ... makes no sense at all IMHO ... but I reused existing bolts after cleaning the old "loctite" off, and just reapplied some more ...

I know you should always replace angle tightened bolts .... but these are just torqued up ... so I see no problem with re-use ..  :)
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« Reply #2 on: 11 March 2010, 22:13:00 »
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For some unknown reason Vx always do this ... makes no sense at all IMHO ... but I reused existing bolts after cleaning the old "loctite" off, and just reapplied some more ...

I know you should always replace angle tightened bolts .... but these are just torqued up ... so I see no problem with re-use ..  :)
I did the same, partly because I intended to take the caliper off again to fit a new pad wear sensor.

On reflection I wonder whether the bolts are a bit small given the weight of the caliper and the amount of leverage it can exert if the pads wear unevenly. Maybe it is safer to replace the bolts each time the pads are changed :-/
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #3 on: 11 March 2010, 22:16:51 »
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For some unknown reason Vx always do this ... makes no sense at all IMHO ... but I reused existing bolts after cleaning the old "loctite" off, and just reapplied some more ...

I know you should always replace angle tightened bolts .... but these are just torqued up ... so I see no problem with re-use ..  :)
Same here! :y
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #4 on: 11 March 2010, 22:18:15 »
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For some unknown reason Vx always do this ... makes no sense at all IMHO ... but I reused existing bolts after cleaning the old "loctite" off, and just reapplied some more ...

I know you should always replace angle tightened bolts .... but these are just torqued up ... so I see no problem with re-use ..  :)
I did the same, partly because I intended to take the caliper off again to fit a new pad wear sensor.

On reflection I wonder whether the bolts are a bit small given the weight of the caliper and the amount of leverage it can exert if the pads wear unevenly. Maybe it is safer to replace the bolts each time the pads are changed :-/

If that was the case then surely Vx would give you sufficient bolts ??? I just think its plain stupid to give you exactly HALF the bolts required .... either give sufficient (4) ..or none !!!
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« Reply #5 on: 11 March 2010, 22:19:55 »
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For some unknown reason Vx always do this ... makes no sense at all IMHO ... but I reused existing bolts after cleaning the old "loctite" off, and just reapplied some more ...

I know you should always replace angle tightened bolts .... but these are just torqued up ... so I see no problem with re-use ..  :)
I did the same, partly because I intended to take the caliper off again to fit a new pad wear sensor.

On reflection I wonder whether the bolts are a bit small given the weight of the caliper and the amount of leverage it can exert if the pads wear unevenly. Maybe it is safer to replace the bolts each time the pads are changed :-/

If that was the case then surely Vx would give you sufficient bolts ??? I just think its plain stupid to give you exactly HALF the bolts required .... either give sufficient (4) ..or none !!!
Exactly Nige .......
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #6 on: 11 March 2010, 22:34:09 »
Thanks, The reason i bought the brake pads was because the front right brakes were squeeking when braking. I took the left wheel off tonight and had a look at the pads but they were ok with plenty of meat left on them, it got too dark to check the other side (should have done that first). Can brake pads wear more on one side than the other. 


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« Reply #7 on: 11 March 2010, 22:36:55 »
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For some unknown reason Vx always do this ... makes no sense at all IMHO ... but I reused existing bolts after cleaning the old "loctite" off, and just reapplied some more ...

I know you should always replace angle tightened bolts .... but these are just torqued up ... so I see no problem with re-use ..  :)
I did the same, partly because I intended to take the caliper off again to fit a new pad wear sensor.

On reflection I wonder whether the bolts are a bit small given the weight of the caliper and the amount of leverage it can exert if the pads wear unevenly. Maybe it is safer to replace the bolts each time the pads are changed :-/

If that was the case then surely Vx would give you sufficient bolts ??? I just think its plain stupid to give you exactly HALF the bolts required .... either give sufficient (4) ..or none !!!
Exactly Nige .......
Oops. Seems I missed the bit about 2 bolts.

The discs & pads I fitted are Lucas/TRW & came with 4 bolts.

Tried to fit genuine discs, pads and shoes to the rear last weekend & discovered that the dealer hadn't given me the pads (on back order apparently >:(). Think I'm going to stick with Lucas/TRW brake parts from now on....
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« Reply #8 on: 11 March 2010, 22:41:28 »
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Thanks, The reason i bought the brake pads was because the front right brakes were squeeking when braking. I took the left wheel off tonight and had a look at the pads but they were ok with plenty of meat left on them, it got too dark to check the other side (should have done that first). Can brake pads wear more on one side than the other?
Definitely yes.

Had the same symptoms myself last month. When I pulled the calipers off I found that the passenger side was just starting to scrape the back of the pad wear sensor. The drivers side had no pad material left. The squeeking noise was caused by the edge of the brake disc rubbing on the pad retaining spring. :o

On all my previous cars and motorbikes uneven wear has been caused by a piston or caliper slider beoming corroded and partially seizing. The Omega uses rubber gaiters to keep the pistons clean and don't seem to suffer from seizing.

So long as the pistons push back with just hand pressure they should be fine. I try to replace pads before they get to half worn which leaves a good safety margin and reduces the amount of brake fluid in the calipers.
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #9 on: 11 March 2010, 22:58:39 »
I think you only need to remove the bottom bolt in each caliper to change the pads, thats why there's only two bolts supplied..
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Re: brake pads
« Reply #10 on: 12 March 2010, 00:26:18 »
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I think you only need to remove the bottom bolt in each caliper to change the pads, thats why there's only two bolts supplied..

Correct mate - then swing caliper up and out of the way to remove/refit pads :y
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